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Flown A B707 In 1999! Anyone Else,too?  
User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 196 posts, RR: 1
Posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Ok, actually it was not me, but my brother who flew with a B 707 last week!!!
It was in Egypt from Assuan to Abu Simbel and back.
The airline was Air Luxor! It was 32 years old!!!
The interieur was a bit old (ex MEA plane), but he said there was no huge difference between the B757 and the B707!! It was not too loud inside either.

Amazing! I never thought, that it is possible nowadays to fly this plane or a DC8!!! Thought, all these planes were broken up or converted into cargo-planes!!!

What airline have still passenger-types of these planes?

MD 11

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User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Actually, it was not the portugese Air Luxor.
It was an egyptian carrier with a similar name!
(Have to ask my brother.)

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8559 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

The Air Luxor planes still have the MEA red pinstripe below the window line. I heard they were being operated as Combis. I wanna go on one! I flew on 2 MEA 707s in 1994 but I was extremely ill with some tropical illness and didn't really make the most of it. If Air Luxor have a Europe-compatible AOC they could deploy one plane full time doing joy rides. Aw, I wanna go on one of those planes so bad!!

fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4540 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Well, my nick never was more appropriate...
There is a small amount of passenger 707s left:
Air Luxor (Egypt) has 1
JARO of Romania has 2 for charter-flights
Iran Air has 2 (domestic/regional flights)
Saha Air of Iran has about 3 (domestic/regional).

But sadly all DC-8s in passenger-service have gone... Rich International and Marshall Islands were the last passenger operators, and they ceased DC-8s in 1996. There are some stored DC-8s left around, so maybe some adventurous or pleasure-flying company tries it again. I duely hope it! I have made some rides on MEA 707s and even a 720 in 1995 and want more of it!

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

What about the Saudi Arabian Airlines 707 used for VIP transport? There are a couple pics of it on airliners.net dated September 1999. Is it still in service or has it been retired since then?

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4540 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

Hi Bryan,
The Saudi vip 707 is still current... so are lots of other VIP and government 707s and even 4 720s!! There is also a handful of VIP/military DC-8s with seats etc. But I consider that by no means as passenger-aircraft; ordinary people (like me :-( ) can't possibly buy a ticket to get a ride on it... It is even easier to ship something with a cargo 707 or DC-8 and fly along with it.

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4570 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

I think MEA-707 is right, Air Luxor and Iran Air are the only ones still flying 707's in passenger service. I would also love to fly on a 707 these days, just for the pleasure of flying on a very old aircraft. I've been on a 707 once in my life. That was with TEA (a Belgian charter airline) travelling from Rhodos (Greece) to Brussels, back in 1985.
The oldest aircraft I have ever been on is the DC-3. That was with Comair (a regional South African airline) on a flight within South Africa, back in 1986.
With American, the oldest one I have been on is the 727-100.

I always remember the old birds I fly on.

Ben Soriano

Ben Soriano
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4540 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Oops, I forgot some;
Scibe (of Congo) has one passenger 707 but it has not been reported in service. Aero Asia of Pakistan sometimes leases Romanian 707s for passenger flights. Sudan Airways still has one passenger AC but that's not seen in service for ages. Slovtrans of Slovakia also used to have one. And Bin Mahfooz of Gambia has two. They are occasionally seen on hadj-charters from Africa. But for scheduled services, I think you only make chance with Iran or Luxor.
And Ben, I've flown on 2 DC-3s (Dutch Dakota Ass and Era Airlines in Alaska), a Constellation (1947) of MATS, a Viscount, 2 1950s Convair 580s (Era and Frontier), a Lockheed Electra, a 1960 720B, a 1962 Friendship... it's a hobby of mine to fly vintage stuff.

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

OK, I see what you mean about "passenger" service.

It'll be a sad day when the last 707 retires from passenger flight. That was the plane that made intercontinental jet flying possible, and has about as much history associated with it as any other jet commercial plane. I wish I could get on one, but sadly I don't have any trips to Iran or Sudan scheduled soon.

The DC-8s, on the other hand, will be around for decades more. I'll still probably never fly on one, but I've already had the chance to work on some on the ramp. It sure does take you back to the "olden days".

User currently offline4X-ELD From Israel, joined Dec 1999, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (16 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 1750 times:

Well guys,
I know 1992 isn’t 1999 but I had to share the fact that I worked as a steward On one of ELAL’s last 707 charter flight.
When you look at
ELAL’s today modern fleet you can't believe that just 8 years ago they were flying this old machine.
Anyway, the flight was fun , it took me 2 days to scrub off the dirt from my hands (original 707 galley equipment)

User currently offlineStarship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (16 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Local South African carrier Interair still use a passenger Boeing 707 on the Johahannesburg - Antananorivo, Madagascar route. The SA Air Force have four 707 tankers and some, or all, are fitted with some passenger seats.


Behind every "no" is a "yes"
User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5615 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (16 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
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I flew on a 707 back in 1979. It was operated by TAROM and a charter flight from Glasgow to Constanta in Romania.

I cannot remember much about it back I remember looking out the window at the engine!!

I think the reg's were YR-ABA and ABC.

Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland.

User currently offlineMish1234 From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (16 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

Hey all
I just wanted to say that im only 16 but yet I did get to fly in a B-707 with EL AL. When I was living in Israel a few years ago... I got to fly in the very old 707. I used to love planes back than to but I didnt know what was going on cause I was like 6 or something but when We were flying from Eilat to Tel Aviv. My dad said he felt like the plane was going to break into peices.. oh well at least we landed. Ive been still flying with EL AL`s very old fleet of 747-100 and -200 and 3 times in the -400 and the rest in other aircraft. But im glad that there getting new 777 aircraft finally ill start to fly with them more instead of Lufthansa.

User currently offline4x-eld From Israel, joined Dec 1999, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (16 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Hi Mish1234,
Just wanted to correct you:
ELAL707 (4X-ATX) that I wrote about was operated by ARKIA.
Sometimes (very rarely) Arkia would fly the aircraft (with its own pilots ) for ELAL charter company "Sundor".
ELAL Stop using 707 for schedule service at the end of the 80's
Your flight from EILAT to Tel-Aviv must have been with Arkia since ELAL does not oparte domestic services.
Also ELAL had only one 747-100 (4X-AXZ) but it was a cargo plane.
The 747-200 that left were nicely upgraded (new business class - just a month ago) and would be sold when the new 777 arrive at 2001
Happy to know you like flying with us, you are welcome
to fly us to Israel any time!!!

User currently offlineMish1234 From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (16 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

I guess u still work with EL AL right?
Well I flew with u guys this summer to Rhodes Greece.
The food was bad but the flight was smooth. I got to sit in first class to. But 4 days later when I flew with EL AL the flight was the worst one that ive ever had with EL AL from all the hours that ive flowen with the airline that flight was just annoying. The flight was late so we flew on the 747-200. (first class agian) Bad food and the pilots were very old I might say. All they were missing is a cane. One Stewardist on the flight mouthed me off. She told me to shut up or she will smack me in the face. I was only 15 (this happend this summer hehe)
im 16 now .. but what the heck was her problem!?!?!
Well anyways the flight was full like always. The line up in the gate was just a mess. People gave me dirty looks cause I was walking to first class I was also with my friend at the time. We had people coming up stairs every few min. to look at first class and taking pictures .. I really didnt mind them coming up there I couldent care less. But I had no service and at the end of the flight 3 girls (like 20-25 years of age) walked out of the cockpit. Aha.. I see now what are they doing in the cockpit?!?!?! EL AL never gave me permission to go to the cockpit even when I was 7 years old!!! Damn airline pissed me off.. I was walking down the stairs and found a cockrouch on the floor walking along.. I thought it was kinda funny but what u gonna do. EL AL lost tons of respect to me. The pilots of EL AL are great no doubt there are nice. WHen I flew from TEL AVIV to Tornoto the pilot smilied and waved as he was walking down to the gate area. Anyways..

User currently offlineTanguy From Australia, joined Sep 1999, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (16 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Starship has probably given the best shot for a 707 flight if one is serious about flying in the type. South Africa's Interair does indeed fly a 707 on scheduled services to several African ports. I work as a flight attendant with an Australian carrier and two months ago had a passenger on our flight from Perth to Harare and Johannesburg. Two days later on the flight back to Perth I noticed the same pax and enquired as to the brevity of his visit to Southern Africa. To my surprise he admitted he was an airliner enthusiast and had wanted to fly in a B707 before the type left the pax scene for ever. He flew from Jo'burg to Entebbe via some other port which eludes me at the moment. The aircraft to the credit of Interair was I was told in pristine condition both inside and out. The 707 operates on scheduled services and if one has the finances and time then the Interair 707 is a sure bet for the moment at least.
Way back in the 70's I made my first ever overseas flight on board one of Cathay Pacific's (ex Northwest)B707-351C's. It was an experience I'll cherish always. Several years ago I flew for probably my last time on a B707 in Zimbabwe when to my absolute delight a 707 was substituted in place of a B737-200 on the Harare - Victoria Falls flight. Air Zimbabwe's 707 fleet included an ex Lufthansa machine, at least I assumed so as the interior of the aircraft in which I flew had a lot of chocolate brown panelling in the door and galley areas (as used by LH) and German placards throughout. The 707 has a very solid feel to it in flight. I always find Airbus types and the B767's to "feel" more delicate somehow. Just my thoughts!
I hope those of you who have yet to fly in this classic airliner will also achieve your dreams. Happy and safe travels,

User currently offlineB-707 From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (16 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

The Boeing 707 is a truly great aircraft.

I flew on one (twice) in the 1970s with Olympic airways from London to Athens and back.

I also had the pleasure to fly on a Boeing 720 with British Airtours. I remember I asked the stewardess what the difference was between the 707 and the 720 . She said she had no idea, but would ask the Captain, and then get back to me. Needless to say she probably forgot, as I'am still waiting for the answer 20 years later.

I never had the pleasure to fly on the DC8 though, that would have been a dream.

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