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Boeing 737 - The Low-fare Airliner?  
User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1472 times:

Why is it that most low-fare, no-frills airlines operate an all 737 fleet? Southwest, Ryanair and EasyJet all do. Is it an aircraft which gets maintained for less money or what?

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1423 times:

Rugged, bulletproof design. Interesting that the A320 has not had similar success in this segment. The A320 is supposed to be slightly more fuel-efficient than the 733, but I wonder if that is not offset by higher maintainance requirements?

Charles


User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1419 times:

JetBlue operates A320s.

gibberish


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1404 times:

Another major factor is the availability of 737s on the used aircraft market. There are many old 737-300s for sale from airlines upgrading to the NGs, and those are far cheaper than having to go to Airbus for a brand new A320. That may change now that Swissair and Sabena (both large AB customers) are dead and their fleets likely to hit the market.


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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1403 times:

How many planes do they have?


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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1388 times:

Swissair had almost 50 A320-class aircraft, all very well maintained. Sabena had another 20 or so.

But does anyone know if the A320 is more maintainance-intensive?

Charles


User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

SWA was flying before Airbus' were manufactured.

SWA had the choice between the 737 or DC-9 (basically).

EasyJet and Go were based of the "success" of SWA's philosophy, modified for their respective markets.

SWA was started with brand new planes back in 197x.


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Pengiunflies: EasyJet didn't choose the 737 over the A320 because of efficiency or MX costs, they chose it because that's what they could get for the money. Remember that EZY started with a lone 732 a rich Greek bought with money his Dad gave him.

Go on the other hand, was trying to copy off of EZY, so they too invested in 737s.


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Interestingly, the aircraft with the best economics is actually the B757 but it's just a bit too big for the low cost market.

And Lowfareair, EZY used 737s which were leased from IAG using GB Airways' AOC because they were following Southwest's business plan. And they started with two aircraft, not one! Big grin Big grin

Ryanair was also copying Southwest, so they too used 732s initially - acquired from Britannia, as I recall. Prior to that, they had used BAC1-11s.


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24899 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Ryanair also used ATR42s and Bae 748s if my mind serves me right  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

Ceilidh: OK, it might have been two, I don't remember; BUT they were much cheaper to acquire than A320s which is what I was trying to say.

User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1256 times:

Ryanair also (briefly) used A320s!

User currently offlineMatt777 From Cayman Islands, joined Oct 2001, 503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

Any pic of that ceilidh?

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1903 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

fwiw, WN tried out 727s also, for just a bit anyway, not just DC-9s and 732s. There was a pic in Airliners back a year ago or so.

BlatantEcho



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User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6374 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

If we look at other low fare airlines, for instance the European charter airlines, then you see everything ranging from 25 years old A300s to brand new A320 and A330. And in between aged A320s and loads of A310s. Alongside B737s/757s of all ages including 737NG.

So I don't think that any such conclusions can be made. It's just coincidental - and of course helped by the fact that 737 is the most common airliner type, and it has been around for so many years.

Regards, Preben Norholm



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

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User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

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User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1132 times:



The new Frontier started out as an all-737 operator and is switching to all-Airbus



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