Jean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 935 times:
I don't know about safety and I'm not sure about routes (maybe YYZ-FRA, YYZ-LHR??), but I know that they are still combis (or at least they were last year.) They may not be around much longer though. I forget the ownership details but Yyz717 will know.
AC_A340 From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 2251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 909 times:
All the original AC combis are still combis. I think they might have parked one, but I'm not sure. The ones they got from CP are full passenger. Most of the time the combis are used on trans-atlantic routes. Occasionally they would be used trans-pacific or even to tourist hot spots in the busy season.
Lymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 903 times:
When AC ordered their 744s in the early 90s, Transport Canada imposed a restriction: in the event of a massive troup movement operation, AC would be required to use their 744s to supplement DND's transports. Beacause of this, extra 'beefing up' of the landing gear and associated structures was required. Obviously, this added extra weight; in fact, this added weight severley restricted certain loads on longer flights. When AC parked their 744s in the desert upon delivery and desperately tried to sell them, there found there were no interested parties because on many flights, the extra weight made in uneconomical. AC reluctantly brought them into service, but have always had that weight restriction.
It sounds farfetched, but I assure you, I've heard this from many reliable sources. I may have some facts wrong, mind you.
I am unsure if ex CP machines have this mandated extra feature...
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16374 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 888 times:
According to JP Airline fleets, the AC 744 Combi's have the same max weight as the 4 ex-CP 744s. So the 3 AC Combis were not certified at a higher gross weight so perhaps the heavier weight of the mods simply means a reduced payload.
Of the 3 combis, 2 are leased from GE Capital. The 3rd appears to be owned. Of the 4 ex-CP 744's, one is in temp storage ("Max Ward") and will be returned to the lessor in Feb 02.
The 3 Combis are used on the following routes: YYZ-LHR/FRA/YVR and YVR-HKG.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.