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Why No 737's In The "new Sabena"?  
User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4639 posts, RR: 12
Posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4081 times:

Hi everyone,
As you certainly know, especially if you live in Brussels, Sabena has been declared bankrupt already three days ago after which 12000 Sabena employees were on the streets protesting against the new social plan.
A new Brussels based Belgian airline, founded with what was left over of Sabena's subsidiary DAT, is being studied and could start operations as of tonight. The new Sabena, DAT+, or whatever the name will be, will fly to various destinations in Europe and Africa as well as two destinations in the United States: New York (probably JFK instead of EWR) and Boston. It will take all the Avro RJ's coming from DAT and will pick up 8 A319's and 5 A330's. Those Airbusses are ex-Sabena I'm sure, some of them are still "sleeping" on the tarmac of Brussels National Airport, three A319/A320's left yesterday for Chatearoux, a place in Southern France where old airliners are retired or resting waiting their next owner. In other words, Chateauroux is the French Mohave.
Now my question is: WHY do they stay away from the 737? When Sabena shut down three days ago, it still had a few 737's left, 300 and 500 series. Every Belgian airline that has ever existed, except VLM (they fly Fokker 50's only), has operated at one time the Boeing 737. If I undestand well, the new airline will be the first Brussels based airline that will not operate any 737, they could pick up a few ex-Sabena 737's resting on the tarmac at Zaventem but...they don't want to, I don't have the impression that they are interested in those. Are those 737's gonna "sleep" in Zaventem for ever?

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium

Ben Soriano
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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4046 times:

My guess is that the crews flying the A319(and A320?) will also fly the A330. Cross qualification is only possible on Airbus and saves a lot of money.

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7561 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4016 times:

Wasn't the 737 slated for retirement/disposal by Sabena anyway ?


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User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Slz396, is cross qualification possible on A319/320 + A330 ?

Regards, SN-A330

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User currently offlineFLYSAB From Belgium, joined Nov 1999, 106 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Yes, cross qualification is possible on 319/320+330.
319/320 is considered as the same for type rating.
At Swissair they used to (and maybe still do) be qualified that way.
Now, to say that it saves a lot of money is another story, as at Sabena (I was qualified on 330+340) the instuctors kept telling us that it was more a cost than a benefit to maintain both type ratings.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2433 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3965 times:
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Well, I heard that DAT might still operate the remaining Boeing 737-500 for "operational reasons" in the begining of the new Belgian Airline. It's an executive member of DAT who told me.


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User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Standardization is the key to cutting costs in most industries. If there are enough (newer?) Airbuses to choose from, why introduce a few older Boeings.
If it was the other way round and most of their newer aircraft were Boeing, they would probably have gone for an all 737/767 fleet.

Remember a similar plan has been operating at BA for some time now. Their long term strategy is
narrow body=Airbus
wide body=Boeing


User currently offlineA330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

All Sabena 737's are sold. They were all to be phased out as the new A320 series aircraft entered service. None of that has changed, even with Sabena being bankrupt. The possibility still exists that the new Sabena may take 737's instead of the A319's because beginning from scratch gives you the possibility to renegotiate all contracts (along with the financial advantages) The events of September 11th has worked in the new Sabena's favor because there is now an over capacity of aircraft on the market, giving a large choice and very interesting leasing possibilities (up to 50% cheaper than roughly 2 months ago.) In other words anything is still possible... to be continued...

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3900 times:

Why should they go with the B737? Only beacuse other belgian airlines have operated them? This would be a silly way to explain a fleet strategy, IMHO.


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