Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
DAT's Future Routes.  
User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1219 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Hello again everyone.

I can now give you a short explanation of the future DAT (name will change soon) network:

BAe 146 / Avros : will operate more or less the same network than before. BUT LHR, MAD, FCO, OSL, HEL BCN, ZRH will be added.

A319: will operate to GVA, TLV, ATH, VCE, AGP.

Main change for the crews: much more night stops on Avro than with Airbus A319.

A330: operates to JFK (possibly EWR later), BOS and a network of other African destinations that I can't remember. But anyway no major change mainly reductions. Asian destinations are NOT ruled out but will only appeat for summer 2002 at the earliest.

The slide presentation went pretty fast so I can't be 100% sure, I can only rely on my old hard disk :- . But it should be actual enough.
The wage is quite reduced for the pilots (even current DAT's) but it raised for the current DAT (...as well as flat rate !!) cabin crews.

Hope this helps !!!

Flying Belgian.


Life is great at 41.000 feet...
11 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

Why would they fly to EWR? Your battling for the New York area market, so why not fly 2X to JFK. SN didnt do well at EWR, and IAD..

Any possibility of DAT flying to YUL Flying Belgian?

Mark


User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Will DAT actually fly the routes to LHR, FCO and BCN itself, or will they give these flights in concession to VEX as they (I mean SN) did in the past?



User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1108 times:

Tonights flight to LHR is a flight operated by DAT. Virgin Express has got a flight number for this flight aswell. My guess is that Virgin will have to give back the slot to whom they belong. As Virgin was only operating on behalf of Sabena.


SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1110 times:

Thanks Manni, I was just wondering about that.

Can I assume that Virgin operated the flight as well ?

Regards, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2603 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1109 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

From Sabena's website today;

Routes currently being operated with Daily frequencies in paretheses;

Birmingham (3)
Bristol (2)
Leeds (2)
London City (4)
Manchester (4)
Newcastle (3)
Copenhagen (3)
Gothenburg (3)
Oslo (3)
Stockholm (2)
Helsinki (2)
Warshaw (1)
Berlin (4)
Hamburg (3)
Hanover (3)
Munchen (4)
Stutgart (3)
Luxemburg (2)
Geneva (5)
Prague (1)
Vienna (3)
Florence (3)
Milan (4)
Turin (2)
Venice (2)
Lyon (3)
Marseille (3)
Nice (2)
Strasbourg (3)
Toulouse (3)
Bilbao (1)
Madrid (3)
London Heathrow (9)
Barcelona (3)
Rome (3)

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1098 times:

The flights to LHR operated by TV were cancelled tonight. You can have a look at BIACs website, check the departure information.


SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1086 times:

when I looked at the BIAC-site at around 21:15 the SN flight to LHR was there, together with the VEX-flight. Both were mentioned as 'departed' (I think).

Now the SN flight is gone and the VEX flight mentioned as 'cancelled'.

Strange !

Regards, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

And Frankfurt??? It would be surprising to give FRA a miss...

User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1065 times:

hey, hey, just wait a few days, my friend.
Don't forget this is only the first day of the new Belgian airline. The network sure will grow during the comming weeks.


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2603 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1068 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

BAA Heathrow Arrivals

TONIGHT;

2000 TV5831 BRUSSELS LANDED 1910 T1
2050 QG5833 BRUSSELS LANDED 2022 T1
2100 TV5833 BRUSSELS LANDED 2045 T1

DUE TOMORROW MORNING

0650 TV5813 BRUSSELS
0730 QG5813 BRUSSELS
1045 QG5817 BRUSSELS

It would appear Virgin Express have secured their own slots for the Heathrow services. Strangely both airlines are using the original flightnumbers, but they are now operating at different times and on different aircraft!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1037 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

To my gretaest surprise I found back some VEX destinations in this preliminary DAT's destinations list.

The reason is simple: 1/2 of the slots were belonging to Sabena and "leased back" to VEX.

The future agreements between DAT & VEX are still unclear. But it was said yesterday that the 2 biggest investors in the new Belgian airline have met Branson in London.

FB.


P.S: no scheduled flights foreseen so far to YUL.



Life is great at 41.000 feet...
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Does Anybody Has An Idea About DAT's Future? posted Sat Dec 8 2001 17:25:44 by Kenny
DAT's Future Still Cloudy posted Tue Dec 4 2001 12:04:05 by Ceilidh
CO Micronesia Future Routes/Aircraft posted Mon Sep 24 2001 18:19:14 by Airbus380
Your Airport: New/Future Routes posted Sat May 26 2001 00:34:40 by Mah4546
The Future Of DAT posted Tue Dec 4 2001 12:53:43 by Cpt. Caveman
ANA European Routes & Future Expansion? posted Mon Aug 20 2001 15:36:21 by Airmale
Future CO Routes posted Sat Jun 2 2001 18:48:19 by Airbus380
Future Northwest Routes From Detroit? posted Wed May 2 2001 04:00:23 by DTW/ORD Fan!
Future Air Canada A321 Routes? posted Sat Jan 13 2001 05:47:37 by Caribb
Air Canada A330-300 Routes Now And Future! posted Tue Nov 30 1999 00:02:32 by DenSpotter