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User currently offlineHooverair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 966 times:

Yea, I was just looking to hear from anyone about statistics on the Dash-7 and also if anyone has any experiences with the aircraft it would be nice to hear about them. Thanks a lot

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User currently offlineRoyal330 From Austria, joined Nov 2001, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Engine:4 P&WC PT-6A-50
Speed:436km/h
Reach:1279km
PAX:50
Heavy:20000kg



“I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.”
User currently offlineHooverair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Thanks a lot royal!

User currently offlineEl Al 001 From Israel, joined Oct 1999, 1063 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 905 times:

I had lots of flights in the DHC-7, all of them were operated by Arkia Israeli Airlines.

I flew with them:
SDV-ETH
ETH-SDV
ETH-TLV
TLV-RPN-KSW (only 6 min' between RPN & KSW!!!)
KSW-RPN-TLV (only 6 min' between RPN & KSW!!!)

All these routes are domestic lines inside Israel.

Arkia used to fly 12 of them, today IIRC they operate only 6 side by side with ATR72s, most of them are in the new Arkia c/s and they in good shape also from the inside.
Last June when I flew with Arkia from ETH to SDV on an ATR I spoke to the pilot and we compared the DH7 with the AT7, all in all, he said that those DH7s are more helicopters than a/cs...:D (all they need is 600 metters and they are airborned!!!)
The DH7 is known for it's reliablity, at Arkia they claim that it is the best a/c they have for bad weather, but soon enough they will all be gone....

Michael


User currently offlineWhiskeynovembr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 884 times:

I know someone who spent some time flying Dash-7s. He said that, even when heavy, he would typically land and get it stopped in about 500 feet...without a significant headwind. Bear in mind, this is a ~50,000 pound airliner we're talking about.
The Dash-7 was ideal for flying into and out of London City, where the glideslope was well over 3 degrees (I think about 7 or so) and led to a 3000-4000 foot runway.


User currently offlineCap'n Dan From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 870 times:

El Al 001: I flew on an Arkia Dash 7 from Jerusalem (Atarot) to ETH a few years ago. Is Arkia still flying out of Atarot? I didn't look like it when I checked their webpage.

User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 862 times:

once flew a Dash 7 of Paradise Island air from FLL to Paradise Island on the Bahamas.
don´t know if the airline still exists, though, purchased by the current Pan Am??? something comes to my mind...

rgds
daniel



If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 859 times:

I haven't flown on one personally but both airlines that flew Dash 7's got rid of theres pretty quickly.

Talking with some of the Mechanics that worked on the aircraft, I have the impression that it was universally hated.

Lots of electrics that don't work right.

One person called it, "The worst Boeing ever." At the time they where building them DHC was owned by Boeing.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1675 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 847 times:
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The Dash 7 is the only commuter aircraft I've ever felt safe in. The four engines and powerful but short takeoff roll are very impressive. I've been on quite a few, and was sorry to see them replaced with Dash 8s and J-41s.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 841 times:

Many of the Dash-7's were bought by the US military for reconnaisance roles, and designated the RC-7. Prior to that, I have seen them around ATL flying for ASA, but that must have been 10-15 years ago.

Cheers,
Pete


User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 825 times:

I used to work at the Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa, where the Dash-7 prototype is currently on display (if you consider sitting out and rotting away on the tarma "on display"). It's sad to see the plane so neglected. Nonetheless, it's a fascinating plane!

What did it in was it's slow cruise, limited range and the fact that the Dash-8-300 has similar performance/pax seating with MUCH less fuel burn.

Check out the museum's blurb about the Dash-7:

http://www.aviation.nmstc.ca/Eng/Collection/sd051e.htm



buhh bye
User currently offlineEl Al 001 From Israel, joined Oct 1999, 1063 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 798 times:

Cap'n Dan,
No, Arkia does not operate from JRS anymore, there was never too much of demand, and a great number of the flights between JRS and ETH were coming from or leaving to SDV.
Anyway, the service via JRS was not efficient at all and therefore was ceased.

Michael.


User currently offlineAdria From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 784 times:

I flew once with it when it was still in Adria but they have replaced them with CRJ's.It was a short take-off distance and the 4 props are making this aircraft looking very "heavy".

User currently offlineNG737PSR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 770 times:


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Photo © Erik Frikke



I used to work at Southend Airport near London in the early-mid 1980s when Maersk Air used to operate them from and to Billund, Denmark. (they used to market it as Billund-London (Southend)

A very impressive aircraft to watch, and very smart inside from what I can remember.


User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2006 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 769 times:

I believe that Air Wisconsin was the first US operator of the Dash 7. Hawaiian Airlines also operated them.

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