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Lowest Seat-cost, A330/340 Or B777  
User currently offlineLegolars From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

anyone?

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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Depends on many factors:
engines being a major one
length of flight
how near the plane is to MGTOW etc


User currently offlineBA777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 673 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

I have no proof about this, but I believe that the the A330 has more range but the 777 has a lower seat-cost.

Ba777-236



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User currently offlineWingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2200 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

In my opinion, the seats on the Airbus are cheaper. I've ridden in all three planes and the 777 seats feel like better quality. Plus they're made in Japan, which is a very expensive place to make seats. The Airbus seats are made in China. They look good but the quality is awful. So I think it's safe to say that Airbus has lower seat costs.



User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Wingman,
maybe Boeing are taking advantage of the negative inflation currently being experienced in Japan  Big grin


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5014 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

In my opinion, the seats on the Airbus are cheaper. I've ridden in all three planes and the 777 seats feel like better quality.

The quality of the seats has nothing to do with the aircraft. Airlines choose the type of seats they wish to use in their aircraft. The same companies make these chairs for both Airbus and Boeing.


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

I think Wingman is pulling our legs  Smile

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offlineVulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Hello people. We are not talking about the actual seats here. We are talking economics. Get a clue. By the way, Airbus is the clear winner here.

User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1804 times:

The 777 has far better range than the A330. And as far as the 777/Airbus.........well, you have to look at max payload, and range......

UAL747


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1795 times:

Sure, the 777 has more range than the A330. That's because they were designed for different missions. Why should an airline buy the 777, if they don't need that range?

Gerardo



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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

I think the B707 still has the lowest seat mile costs, but the DC-8 is coming close...


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

MegaLLLoooLLL!!
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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Wingman,

AWESOME!! I just read this thread after hearing about the events in NYC this morning, and really enjoyed the break in atmosphere

Vulindlela744,

"By the way, Airbus is the clear winner here."

ooookkkkaaaayyyy. . . let me use another of your own expressions - Get a clue.


Legolars,

To answer your original question, it does indeed depend on any number of factors, the major ones being:

- stage length
- aircraft configuration (seating)
- aircraft MTOW
- engine type (A330 & 777)

Therefore, one definitive answer is not going to be found, no matter how biased one happens to be.

Hamlet69



Honor the warriors, not the war.
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6759 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Before 9/11, leases and values would be:
A330-300 Aircraft Lease: $663-787K per month, or $75 (2nd hand) to 97 million to buy.
777-200ER is: $815 - 860K and 102.5 - 118 million respectively...

Use the leases and assume a monthly utilitisation rate, that would give you a cost/hour for the jets.. then divide the number by the seats in the plane, and that would give you a per seat hour cost for the aircraft.

You must then work out the crew cost, Maintenance, and Insurance costs per hour... after all that, add the fuel ! Don't believe what the manufacturers say...

Mandala499



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