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A321 Thoughts?  
User currently offlineYXDfan From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 193 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Hey all!

I've decided to break my own rule and fly Air Canada on a trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia in February (cashing in some Aeroplan points).

At least one of the flights i'm booked on is operated by AC's new A321s. Just curious as to how the A321 is to ride on?

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User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3062 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Nice ride in the A321.

Try to avoid the overwing seats and go for something forward of the engines; the landings can be a little firmer than on the 319/320 and you certainly feel it if you're sat over the bogeys.

Overall though, it's a great passenger-orientated airplane. Enjoy your trip and let us all know about it when you get back !  Big thumbs up

Shamu

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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

I´ve flown on Lufthansa A321 several times, I like the plane. It is very quiet and the over-head bins are large. As a pax you´ll like it! Enjoy your flight...

Regards
Flying-Tiger



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User currently offlineVS744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1107 times:

I flew a British Midland (BMI) 321 in may, and it was a really nice flight. The cabin is bright and spacious, and without trying to begin another argument over the size of the seats, they do actually have a little extra in their width.

The wingtips look cool if you are sat near a window at the back too!


User currently offlineAFC_Ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1076 times:

I agre with all the above comments, very PAX friendly and nice cabin atmosphere


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User currently offline2000first From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

I have also flown on bmi A321's on 2 occasions. I prefer them to the 757, and if you have flown on a 757, you will notice the brighter and more spacious cabin on the A321. I thought the takeoff was excellent too.......you can really feel the power (maybe just because my flight was full?) The take-off's are just as good as those on the 757. IMO the 757 and A321 have the best takeoff of any narrowbody!

User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

I have seen several USAirways A321s in the last few weeks.

Is it just me, or does the vertical stabilizer simply look DRAMATICALLY TOO SMALL for this aircraft? Every time I see it, I say to myself..."that tail and rudder will never work". Granted, I'm not an aeronautical engineer, however, when parked next to the 757, it's cousin-by-looks-only, the airplanes look so similar until you get to the empenage, and then the A321 looks like a JV football player trying to play with the big boys.

Just my two cents.....

Travis


User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1025 times:

Hi YXDfan on behalf of everyone at Air Canada we're looking forward to having you onboard. Will you be flying on a Dash from YMM to YEG? What sector is the A321 operating? I haven't heard yet when they will start using them into Edmonton.


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User currently offlinePhlflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

I have flown several times on JM 321's and twice in US 321's. Exit row seats have at least 5-6 feet of legroom, they are great!! You actually have to get out of your seat to access the seat back in front of you.

User currently offlineYXDfan From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 992 times:

Actually, i'm anticipating a move to Calgary in the new year so i've booked the trip out of Calgary.

Its an all Airbus itinerary and the one sector that I know for sure is an A321 is AC141 YYZ-YYC.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 987 times:

VEEEERY nice aircraft. You'll love it.


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User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 983 times:

Yea, I just thought about it! *As he looks at his username.... scratching his head* Thats all it deserves, a thought.



User currently offlineOscar2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 975 times:

Why does everybody compare the 321 to the 757? The 321 is more closely related to the 737-900.

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 932 times:

Why does everybody compare the 321 to the 757?

The 321 more closely related to the 752 if you ask me.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6965 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 923 times:

Last time I flew A321 with LH (2x), it was HORRIBLE! It felt old and shoddy... perhaps it was just LH A321s... my A320 trip years before was WAYYYYY better... so were my 757 trips... depends on what you look for in an airplane  Smile

Mandala499



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 914 times:

The A321 is definitely more similar to the 737-900 than the 757-200; the A321 and 737-900 share:

* Similar ranges (the 757-200 has much longer range)
* Similar passenger capacities (the 757-200 is considerably larger)
* Commonality with a family of smaller narrowbody jets (the 757-200 shares commonality with the 757-300 and 767-200/300/400)


User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 917 times:

"I've decided to break my own rule and fly Air Canada on a trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia"

hehehe.. as if you had a choice, really?



Next flight.... who knows.
User currently offlinePA121 From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 903 times:

I guess the reason we all compare A321 and 757 is that there is an awful lot of them around but little 739s.
A321 is closer to the 739 in terms of range and passengers, but definitely a 757 in terms of cargo IMHO.
All 3 of them are really nice, how boring it would be without choice!


User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 902 times:

ScottB, I disagree...

- A321 and B752 actually have similar passenger capacities (2-class with 12 first class seats and identical pitches gives 187 vs 192, both 200+ in charter config) The B739 is limited to 189, no matter config.

- Cargo capacity on the A312 and B752 is similar, but much less on the B739.

Ignoring commonality issues, the only major difference between the A321 and B757-200 is range.

I consider the A321 to be much more of a B757-200 competitor.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 891 times:

What are the thrust ratings on the powerplants of the 752 and 321>

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 880 times:

*He looks at his username.... scratching his head* Thats all it deserves, a thought.

 Big thumbs up


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 877 times:

Bzzzzt, wrong. From Boeing's website:

757-200, mixed-class configuration:
201 passengers (12C[36"]/189Y[32"])
757-200, single-class configuration:
239 passengers
737-900, mixed-class configuration:
177 passengers (12C[36"]/165Y[32"])

757-200 cargo capacity: 43.3 cubic meters
737-900 cargo capacity: 51.9 cubic meters
(less cargo on the 757-200 means more fuel...)

757-200 length: 47.32 m
737-900 length: 42.1 m

757-200 engines: 36,600-43,500 lbs thrust
737-900 engines: 27,300 lbs thrust

757-200 MTOW: 116 T
737-900 MTOW: 78 T

From Airbus' website:
A321, mixed-class configuration:
185 passengers (16C[36"]/169Y[32"]) - you could argue 187 passengers by moving a row from business class to coach.
A321, single-class configuration:
199 passengers

A321 cargo capacity: 51.76 cubic meters

A321 length: 44.51 m

A321 engines: 30,000-33,000 lbs thrust

A321 MTOW: 83-93 T

In just about any comparison you care to choose, the A321 is more similar to the 737-900 than the 757-200. 187 is closer to 177 than 199. The A321 and 737-900 have nearly identical cargo capacities.


User currently offlineJmhLUV2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 857 times:

I found the A321 to be a really nice airplane. I flew on a Usairways A321 between CLT and BWI. The airplane has excellent takeoff performance and climbout, those engines just hum right along. I found the size of the A321 to be alot like the 757, I suppose the plane is Airbus' version of the 57'. Enjoy your flight aboard the A321.
JMH


User currently offlineJmhLUV2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 847 times:

I wasn't actually saying that the A321 was identical to the 757-200, but rather that I thought they looked similiar, just my opinion.
JMH


User currently offline2000first From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 821 times:

ScottB.......the A321 max passenger config' is 220 passengers. In the UK, Airtours, Air 2000, and Monarch all fly their 321's in this configuration, so really the 752 only has 19 more seats in the tightest fit! and i can vouch that either of these a/c is not very comfortable in these configurations!

ps.....i love the 757 AND 321  Love


25 VS744 : Oscar2/ScottB Just to settle this debate, I have the A321 marketing literature which is given to all the customers of Airbus Industrie. The A321 is ex
26 CV990 : Hi! I flew 5 times in the A321, 4 times with Swissair the 100 model with CFM engines and 1 time with GB Airways, a series 200 with IAE engines, I thi
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