Coyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1302 times:
Someone posted a comment recently that American made the decison to retire the DC-10 and keep the A300, but that it was a close thing. Was this really the case, and would they have used the DC-10 on the routes where they now have the A300, had they kept it? As someone who loves the DC-10 and is not a fan of the A300, I wish they had kept the DC-10, we miss them in Miami. I'm sure the A300 is much more economical on fuel, and the age of the aircraft is much less than the DC-10, so was this really a choice they had?
ILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1240 times:
Most of AA DC-10s were the -10 variant which were much less advanced than the -30 and -40s that a lot of airlines still operate with the exception of HA and Sun Country. I think that the A300 would have been much more economical than the DC-10-10 in this situation.
TAN FLYR From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1223 times:
The discussion that was refered to was one that took place in early-mid 91, after the Gulf war. The original A-300's were on a 30 day walk away lease agreement. For the most part, the DC-10's were paid for. The discussion centered around the best use of cash, that is lease payments vs maint. costs and extra fuel burn on the DC-10's. As we all know the figures pointed to a more profitable future with the A-300's. As I recall, Fed-Ex about that time made an offer for the 10's as they were retired. The culmination of the meetings was the eventual transition to a 2 engined fleet. With the retirement of the MD-11 a few weeks ago, that goal has now been met.
Coyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1182 times:
Thanks, that all makes sense and is pretty much what I was thinking. They are not at the point of a 2 engined fleet yet though, as they still have a bunch of 727s...
Certainly they are at that point for widebodies though.
Thomacf From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1047 times:
I think if it was between the A300 and DC-10-30's or 40's the DC-10's would still be around. The one thing that surprises me about AA keeping the A300 was the cost of maintaning them in the US is supposed to be high. I don't know how true this is, but my friend, a pilot at CO, told me that that was the main reason CO got rid of them. He said that they are so rare in US fleets because they are so costly to operate in the US and don't fit well in most major US fleets with the 767 and 777 which most majors have.