Mx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1669 times:
With all the speculation and downright recalcitrance of the federal government over AN's future, it appears that Lange and DJ are presenting massive expansion plans to the federal government as an alternative to AN III.
Obviously this includes the spanking AN terminals and different infrastructure.
What form do you guys think the 'new' DJ will take if this happens. Obviously the cost structure will change and better services will be offered at different airports around Australia.
Does anyone care to speculate what these might be?
Jsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
Well, for one, I hope DJ offer higher quality amenity packs for the long MEL-PER sectors
I also hope that they might try to open up the Golden Wing lounges to all of the flying public - for a modest entry fee - say $5 upfront, but mandate that thongs are not permitted. They could offer Virgin Cola on tap. Has anyone tried Virgin Cola? I quite liked the stuff when I was in the UK.
Trentis From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 160 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1580 times:
hopefully they'll also bring in some sort of loyalty scheme/frequent flyer programme.
if DJ did end up introducing lounges/ff programmes etc, it'd be a bit of an about face for them. they've made such a big deal about how airlines don't need those sorts of frills.
perhaps DJ could do something similar to airtran (formerly ValuJet in the US), and introduce a business class cabin, with bigger pitch, complimentary drinks etc. all for a surcharge of, say, $75 or so on top of a fully-flexible fare when you arrive at the airport, upgrades on a first-in-best-dressed basis. this way they could maintain their core no-frills customer base and perhaps lure more corporate clients their way.
Wirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1568 times:
Everyone is getting carried away, NOWHERE has it
been stated that DJ has any ideas of a full service
carrier, as they have stated, Lang is only one that
is looking at becoming a cornerstone invester.
If DJ were to use the AN terminals, the 30min turn
around becomes almost impossible using just the
one door instead of 2, as Huttner said, the express
terminal in SYD is good enough for their expansion
for the next 18mths, 2 of the B737-800s coming will be
fitted out specially for the Perth and Darwin flights,
and the whisper is food will be available.
Wirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1551 times:
Further to my above post, I have 2 DJ flight attendants
sitting here with me now and they both agree that it
would add at least 10min to the turn around, as it is
very hard to deplane Pax, clean the cabin and board
Pax in the 30min now, using the 2 doors.
As DJ average 6 sectors a day, this would add
an additional 1 hour a day to their flight and ground
crews a day in wages (very expensive), and as they
say, " What would stop another No-frills startup using
the express terminal we left to go to the AN terminal?,
we would finish up in the pooh like Ansett."
BNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3164 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
I am surprised that Virgin didn't serve Virgin Cola on board their aircraft. I hate the idea of having to pay for tea/coffee or a drink, but have no problems having to buy food.
Virgin Cola is ok, similiar to Coke not much difference.
What would be a good idea would be for them to serve tea/coffee, water, soft drink(Virgin Cola would be a good choice) and pay for any food they might offer.
The Sydney express terminal is very quick and easy both for passengers and the airline.
Wirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
Of course your right SYD-MEL is 8 sectors a day
per aircraft, whereas MEL-PER, PER-ADE, ADE-PER
PER-MEL is only 4, on reflexion the true average
is proberly 7+, If they used the AN terminals the
SYD-MEL would add 80min to the day.
Wirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1503 times:
10 min is an incredible time to unload an B737-800
with 162 pax, clean the cabin and then load 162 Pax,
the 2 DJ F/As here at the moment recon thats
impossible, remember that DJ has seat allocation,
I believe Southwest do not.
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5248 posts, RR: 27 Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1497 times:
Wirraway, you are right, WN (Southwest) do not have assigned seating. They do turn aircraft vey fast, but (absent unusual circumstances) not in ten minutes, generally (though light loads can help). It is most likely to happen on the highest-frequency segments, like Dallas- Houston.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
Mx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
Personally, I couldn't imagine the likes of DJ swarming like a plague of locusts all over the beautiful award winning AN terminal in SYD.
WELCOME TO THE DRONGO BLUE LEISURE LOUNGE!!
Hello guys and gals, and welcome to our leisure lounge, $5.00 entry fee and all you can eat.
Don't mind our RSL style vomit smelling carpeting or our Sizzlereqsue buffet of rotting vegetation and sandwich ham - we will not forget this, our fabulous 'fat bastard buffet of soft serve and chocolate sauce'.
Also enjoy our pokie machines and free complimentary XXXX stubby holders at 10$ a pop.
Jsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
MB - now it is getting downright hostile!
Seems like there is much (excitement/uncertainty/whatever word you want) ahead in the Australian aviation industry.
Having flown DJ 6 times now, I can say that there is nothing to be afraid of - and none of the f/a's were revealing any part of their anatomy to the pilots on any of the flights that I have been on (mostly MEL-BNE-MEL)....nor were they spinning airstairs on the tarmac just for fun.
They were very efficient - boarding through both doors certainly speeds up the process and all flights I have been on with them have been on time or a little early. I remember this especially was the case at Easter, when I waved at the grounded AN 762s while taxiing past on DJ out to the runway at MEL.
Wirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
LOL! You mean to tell me you have been blasting
VB for all these months and you have never flown
one sector with them? Must confess neither have
I yet, even though I have a decent discount as my
kid flys with them, my last 4 sectors were with the
former Impulse which I was very impressed with.
You never know your future partner could be flying
around with VB, anyway your beloved Ansett is not
dead yet, so hang in there