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Virgin Blue To Become Full Service Carrier?  
User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

Hey guys,

With all the speculation and downright recalcitrance of the federal government over AN's future, it appears that Lange and DJ are presenting massive expansion plans to the federal government as an alternative to AN III.

Obviously this includes the spanking AN terminals and different infrastructure.

What form do you guys think the 'new' DJ will take if this happens. Obviously the cost structure will change and better services will be offered at different airports around Australia.

Does anyone care to speculate what these might be?

Cheers,

mb

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User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

Well, for one, I hope DJ offer higher quality amenity packs for the long MEL-PER sectors  Smile

I also hope that they might try to open up the Golden Wing lounges to all of the flying public - for a modest entry fee - say $5 upfront, but mandate that thongs are not permitted. They could offer Virgin Cola on tap. Has anyone tried Virgin Cola? I quite liked the stuff when I was in the UK.





User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Mx5_boy - ah!!! All is revealed! Now I understand your predeliction for AN... Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin

"Obviously this includes the spanking AN terminals and different infrastructure."


User currently offlineTrentis From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

hopefully they'll also bring in some sort of loyalty scheme/frequent flyer programme.
if DJ did end up introducing lounges/ff programmes etc, it'd be a bit of an about face for them. they've made such a big deal about how airlines don't need those sorts of frills.

perhaps DJ could do something similar to airtran (formerly ValuJet in the US), and introduce a business class cabin, with bigger pitch, complimentary drinks etc. all for a surcharge of, say, $75 or so on top of a fully-flexible fare when you arrive at the airport, upgrades on a first-in-best-dressed basis. this way they could maintain their core no-frills customer base and perhaps lure more corporate clients their way.


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Everyone is getting carried away, NOWHERE has it
been stated that DJ has any ideas of a full service
carrier, as they have stated, Lang is only one that
is looking at becoming a cornerstone invester.

If DJ were to use the AN terminals, the 30min turn
around becomes almost impossible using just the
one door instead of 2, as Huttner said, the express
terminal in SYD is good enough for their expansion
for the next 18mths, 2 of the B737-800s coming will be
fitted out specially for the Perth and Darwin flights,
and the whisper is food will be available.

Wirraway


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1805 times:

Further to my above post, I have 2 DJ flight attendants
sitting here with me now and they both agree that it
would add at least 10min to the turn around, as it is
very hard to deplane Pax, clean the cabin and board
Pax in the 30min now, using the 2 doors.

As DJ average 6 sectors a day, this would add
an additional 1 hour a day to their flight and ground
crews a day in wages (very expensive), and as they
say, " What would stop another No-frills startup using
the express terminal we left to go to the AN terminal?,
we would finish up in the pooh like Ansett."

Wirraway


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1798 times:

I am surprised that Virgin didn't serve Virgin Cola on board their aircraft. I hate the idea of having to pay for tea/coffee or a drink, but have no problems having to buy food.
Virgin Cola is ok, similiar to Coke not much difference.
What would be a good idea would be for them to serve tea/coffee, water, soft drink(Virgin Cola would be a good choice) and pay for any food they might offer.
The Sydney express terminal is very quick and easy both for passengers and the airline.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1794 times:

Wirraway, only 6 sectors? That isnt a lot. Surely they could squeeze a few more and offer better frequency.

User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1787 times:

V Jet

Of course your right SYD-MEL is 8 sectors a day
per aircraft, whereas MEL-PER, PER-ADE, ADE-PER
PER-MEL is only 4, on reflexion the true average
is proberly 7+, If they used the AN terminals the
SYD-MEL would add 80min to the day.

Wirraway


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

If Southwest can turn a 737 in 10 minutes there's no reason why DJ can't do it in the same time ...

User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

10 min is an incredible time to unload an B737-800
with 162 pax, clean the cabin and then load 162 Pax,
the 2 DJ F/As here at the moment recon thats
impossible, remember that DJ has seat allocation,
I believe Southwest do not.

Wirraway


User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5505 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Wirraway, you are right, WN (Southwest) do not have assigned seating. They do turn aircraft vey fast, but (absent unusual circumstances) not in ten minutes, generally (though light loads can help). It is most likely to happen on the highest-frequency segments, like Dallas- Houston.


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Sun, Nov 18 2001 12:13 PM AEDT

Talks of an Australian owned Virgin Blue

Virgin Blue has signalled it may divest its majority stakehold in the airline, enabling it to become Australian owned.



The move comes two months after Richard Branson tore up a $250 million takeover cheque from Air New Zealand.

Virgin Blue's rapid ascent to Australia's second carrier and positive earnings two years ahead of schedule has sparked interest in the airline's future.

Chief executive Brett Godfrey told Channel Nine the company may take some profits to invest in overseas ventures.

He says a portion of Virgin Blue could be sold off ahead of a public float next year.

"We do need some cash for some of these other opportunities and which is why we are also looking for a cornerstone investor who might bring something more to the table than just their cash," he said.

Mr Godfrey also says Virgin Blue could be 51 per cent Australian owned by the end of next year.

"That would give us pretty much immediate access to the Tasman which is something we've said we want to get to."

But the airline is not ruling out a sell-off before then if a suitable deal is on offer.




User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1698 times:

Ugh,

Personally, I couldn't imagine the likes of DJ swarming like a plague of locusts all over the beautiful award winning AN terminal in SYD.

WELCOME TO THE DRONGO BLUE LEISURE LOUNGE!!

Hello guys and gals, and welcome to our leisure lounge, $5.00 entry fee and all you can eat.

Don't mind our RSL style vomit smelling carpeting or our Sizzlereqsue buffet of rotting vegetation and sandwich ham - we will not forget this, our fabulous 'fat bastard buffet of soft serve and chocolate sauce'.

Also enjoy our pokie machines and free complimentary XXXX stubby holders at 10$ a pop.

Cheers,

mb


User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1691 times:

That square glass box won an award?????

User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

V Jet,

Yeah it did, last year I think. I'll have to find a link if I can.

Cheers,

mb


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Mx5

Your starting to become paranoid about Virgin Blue
getting the Ansett terminals, what happened, is it
true you got a knockback when chatting up one of
the cute VB flight attendants  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Wirraway


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Wirraway,

Cheeky bastard! No such luck, although I haven't flown with them yet!!

Any ideas what Sir Dicko and Lange are up to?

Cheers,

mb


User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

MB - now it is getting downright hostile!

Seems like there is much (excitement/uncertainty/whatever word you want) ahead in the Australian aviation industry.

Having flown DJ 6 times now, I can say that there is nothing to be afraid of - and none of the f/a's were revealing any part of their anatomy to the pilots on any of the flights that I have been on (mostly MEL-BNE-MEL)....nor were they spinning airstairs on the tarmac just for fun.

They were very efficient - boarding through both doors certainly speeds up the process and all flights I have been on with them have been on time or a little early. I remember this especially was the case at Easter, when I waved at the grounded AN 762s while taxiing past on DJ out to the runway at MEL.


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Mx5

LOL! You mean to tell me you have been blasting
VB for all these months and you have never flown
one sector with them? Must confess neither have
I yet, even though I have a decent discount as my
kid flys with them, my last 4 sectors were with the
former Impulse which I was very impressed with.

You never know your future partner could be flying
around with VB, anyway your beloved Ansett is not
dead yet, so hang in there  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Wirraway


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Your not suggestion that I may be an AN fan per chance?

 Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile


mb


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