SFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5 Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1534 times:
To all you United bashers out there: (and you know who you are... you losers! )
I don't care if AA gives me more room throughout coach, United plops me down in E+ and I can get more room than "more room" provides. Plus, if I fly AA, I'll never pay. I'll just use miles.
Northwest provides reliable service. That's fine and good, and pretty essential when it all comes down to it, but spending several hours in a threadbare cabin is not my way to fly. Call me crazy, but I'd rather get there just a little later in contentment, with my winged headrest, food, FULL beverage can, free entertainment, and on a young aircraft. While younger may not mean safer, ask yourself this: do you feel safer on a trusty, but old 1983 Toyota Camry, or on a spanking new 2001 Camry. A-ha.
Delta may have a snazzy scheme, but there's no way in hell you'll get me to connect through ATL to go from SFO-anywhere. The widget is a cute little symbol, but I'd rather travel through the ideally-located facilities at DEN, ORD, and IAD, whose terminals uncoincidentally have simple flying Us.
Continental may have the best service and most international destinations, but it means nothing to me when places like Tegucigalpa, Honduras have multiple weekly service. I love their interiors, but somehow my needs don't fit in with theirs.
I am content with my Airbus experiences on UA. No need to fly on another (soon) majority airbus narrowbody fleet. Sorry, US Airways.
Southwest is great for the short haul, but I'm not gonna fly it coast to coast.
What it all boils down to is that UA is the most BASIC airline for me. Its route network (with United Express) can get me almost anywhere in the country with efficient connections and well-maintained hub facilities. Internationally, I can get to many of the most important destinations on 5 continents. If I'm on vacation, getting to Hawaii is not a problem.
If I ever need to go to any other destination on business or leisure, I can turn to the world's most proven alliance network, flying on some of the world's most proven global air carriers. My travel will always be rewarded with an excellent and comprehensive mileage program.
To me, United is America's airline. America's airline should be the one who represents the Untied States of America the most in the world. United, with its impressive nationwide coverage, in conjunction with its large international presence, is this airline in my mind. United is #1 to Asia, #2 to Europe (used to be #1), and #3 to Latin America. That's pretty good if you ask me.
And UA's soon going to have one of the youngest and most standardized fleets, not to mention the "largest average plane size". Take the other airlines, then I can have more room for myself and my other friendly passengers on a large, modern aircraft.
Only on United can the crew truly make your flight feel like "the friendly skies". They don't say that often over the P/A anymore, but when they do, they mean it. When the crew mentions "the friendly skies" they fully intend to deliver on their personal advertising. I've experienced it. With talkative Pilots and caring F/As.
United provides all the right basics.
Face it: UA was dealt an amazing hand of cards, it just doesn't play them very well right now. Everyone is always jealous of the guy who has the full house, so they say he's only bluffing. UA in the past has been too mismanaged to put it use its stellar assets, and now is in the position to rethink its game.
When UA lays out its true hand, read em and weep fellas. U N I T E D will come back.
Co LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1314 times:
Just visit Untied.Com and read on... United is awful. Northwest has always treated me better than United. And they have better hubs too, unlike CONGESTED ORD, CONGESTED IAD, etc, while NWA has MEM, DTW (With a new terminal...DUH) and MSP. As far as Untied Express, NWAirlink does not cancel flights every day like Air Wisconsin, and they don't use crap planes like D328s. I flew Untied Express (UFS) and the BAe-ATP was absolutely the worst plane, with the toilets overlfllowing, and busted seats. NWA offers gate displays with up to the minute screens regarding the flight, Untied still has the old magnet signs. NWA offers one type of Economy Class, and is equal. They don't separate higher class Y/C flyers from one way/leisure flyers in Y/C.
On the American side, they offer jetbridges for ALL ERJ's in ORD, while Untied Express makes you go out into the freezing cold at ORD. They are so cheap they use rundown gates in the F concourse to expand, rather than reconstruct their existing facilities like AA Eagle. Their staff are so horribly rude, their flights are late. In fact, only 36% of their flights were ontime in August 2000. There is far better carriers than United. Also, other airlines don't have Lumberjacks for CEO's.
Twa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1309 times:
CO Lite: At least United doesn't use Saab 340s. And yes i know they use B1900s but what else can be filled up to places like Worland, Wyoming? And all those North Dakota cities. That is explainable. Maybe when Northwest starts flying to Sydney or when their airplanes aren't over 20 years old gathered from 100 different airlines... When DTW isn't called the worst airport in the world and when it doesn't cost $500 to get from Bismarck to Minneapolis, then MAYBE you will have a point.
Oh and speaking of Untied.com...
Have you ever been to northworstair.org? Read on... as you said... enjoy having people bash YOUR favorite airline.
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
Twa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
And about United in the F concourse. If you knew things, you would know that those gates have always belonged to United, and they just leased them out to airlines. As for the freezing cold: I hope you dont freeze when you have to walk 200 feet from the door of the terminal to the airplane. At least when it's cold and your flight is stranded you dont have to stay on-board (we may remember what NW did at DTW that time the storm blew over there.) If the planes at DTW were flying, they could get to NRT by the time they actually took off. All airlines have faults. Maybe Delta sucks too (i dont think they do) since at CVG Comair has no Jetbridges.
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
Its sad that you get better service on Northwest Airlink than on Northwest!!!!
Hass, how do you get Economy Plus? ? I didn't realize you were 2P/1P/1K ?
In terms of United, you get gate-to-gate audio on EVERY plane... something no other airline offers. When we did get food in steerage, it was quite tasty and beat the Delta SkyDeli and American Bistro.
I dunno.. but when I fly United, my flights just SEEM to go by SO much faster...
Also, thanks to a former poster, I flew NW from Vegas to Springfield, IL recently. The flights were good and the flight attendants in good spirits, BUT both long haul flights had video equipment and we didn't even get to see a short feature. When I fly UNITED to Chicago, or even DENVER from Vegas in a plane with video, we get a movie and or short feature. I don't know about you, but would you rather watch a movie or stare at the seatback for 3 hours? ? ? ?
(Oh, I made Premier Exec for next year, with *actual* miles too! yeah!! no status downgrades for me!!!)
Co LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1264 times:
NWA is On-Time, with your luggage. And like I said, DTW is getting a NEW Terminal. See... NWA listens to complaints, they listen to comments, and they use them! Jan 20, 2002 will prove that when the new Detroit World Terminal opens!
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7162 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Every one has thier opinion,but as far as my experiences go,I have had many positive experiences with UA.I like the video in all but the 737's ,too.The full can of soda and that they ralely charge me for a cocktail.It's little things that mean alot.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
Ladevale From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1285 times:
I reiterate what Boeing757fan said - "Why are you posting something like this? It really makes no sense."
I suppose I could turn around and start a similar thread about American, but why would I unless it were in the context of some constructive debate about the competitive advantages of each airline.
By the way, I see your bombastic speech about what you would do to save United didn't impress any of the editors over at Motley.com. Perhaps, you should have plagiarized something I wrote on this board in response to one of your propaganda pieces, because I see that one of the individuals who did win the contest suggested that United take over its regional carriers as American did long ago.
I first flew United in 1983. And, I could already tell back then that United's management, processes, and corporate culture would do them in eventually. It is somewhat satisfying to see that what I thought would happen to them is finally happening.
So, my advice to you is to enjoy your Economy+ service for now, but don't expect any of the other amenities you mentioned to stay around forever. International Business travelers on United have already seen the noise-reduction headsets disappear and all kinds of food items. This is not just a sign of the times. It is a sign that United's labor costs continue to be a drain on all resources, including those of the passenger.