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Plane Spotters Arrested In Greece  
User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1799 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2037 times:

taken from www.lonelyplanet.com/forum

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22 November '01
Greek Military in a Flap over Plane-Spotters

A tour group of British plane-spotters on a sightseeing holiday was arrested and
charged with espionage this week after photographing a helicopter at an airport
south of Athens. The 12 middle-aged spotters were on a trip organized by
Touchdown Tours, which runs tours to view military aircraft around the world. The company had received a written invitation from the Greek Air Force to attend the Kalamata air show, but afterwards they were arrested and charged with photographing 'sensitive military installations', an activity that is strictly forbidden in Greece.

It appears the detained spotters are victims of a cultural schism, because Greek authorities can't believe anyone would take pictures of planes and jot down their numbers as a hobby. In plane-spotter circles, Greece has long been known as a potential danger zone, and several aviation enthusiasts have added prison cells to the list of sights they've seen. Due to its historically troubled relations with its neighbours, Greece is extremely sensitive about such activities. If they are found guilty, the plane-spotters could be imprisoned for up to 20 years.

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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2013 times:

Why would people want to go to Greece to spot planes? All they see are US, British, French, etc. aircraft, which they can see in more friendly countries.

Pete


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1799 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1998 times:

I think the problem was not that they only photographed passenger planes, but military aircraft as well.............what plane is so interesting that is not found in the UK military?


Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN THAT BOTH COMMERCIAL AND MILITARY AIRPORTS ARE NOT THERE FOR SILLY HOBBIES!
Iain


User currently offlineVegas456 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

I agreee, Iainhol. Commercial Airports should only serve one purpose only, to get people from point A to point B in a fast, efficent manner. Military Airports should aid in the defense of the country.

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Is this a new incident or a repeat of the news from a couple of weeks ago?

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

lainhol / Vegas456,

Smart reply. So what do you do then ??, like planes but never go to a airport to watch them ?. Spotting is a great hobby and its very big in Europe. However spotting in Greece is very stupid as its very well known in greece that they dont understand the hobby.

I was at CLK for over 12 hours yesterday and I love it.

Once again, very smart reply.


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Hkgspotter1 - The only time I go to the airport is when I am picking up/dropping off some one, or flying somewhere (either in an airliner or in a C-172 that I fly). I really enjoy going to the airport at those times. I would class myself as an aviation ethusiast, I enjoy flying, learning about planes, being current on aviation news, but you will never find me going to the airport to sit and watch planes.
The purpose for airports/airlines is to get people to and from their destination(s). You here spotters complain about how they are not allowed passed security anymore. THERE IS NO REASON FOR ANY NON-PAX TO GO PASSED SECURITY. I do not care if you want to, so you can take a pretty picture, they do it for a reason, so they can spend longer, and be more maticulas about screening bags, and passengers. Parking in remote lots around the airport is not a good idea, especially when they use ladders, at that point they have all the materials to hop over fence, and then there is no telling what they will do.
Spotting away from the airport is fine, but airports are not the place to play games like that!
Iain


User currently offlineOvelix From Greece, joined Aug 1999, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Delta-flyer

They were spotting military planes at army and air force bases. They were just beside the "No photos" signs. Does it looks sane to you??

Army and air force fields are not there for people to take photos of them. Additionally, the arrested guys wrote reg numbers at notebooks, and had noumerous pictures even from NATO installations in the country.

If you were a policeman or an army security oficcer and you were wathcing those people outside the military fence (they were probably reported by the armed guard too) what would you do???

I wait for an interesting answer


User currently offlineOvelix From Greece, joined Aug 1999, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Delta-flyer

Sorry if the previous post looks like I critisize you. I was just trying to answer the question

Why would people want to go to Greece to spot planes?

and I got it too far on you. But in substance, that's the truth.

Greece is a beautiful country and most of the times noone will bother the spotters who are discreet and do not break the law. Look at the noumerous pics of greek airports at airliners.net and see the comments. Does anyone states that was nearly arrested???


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