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MK Airlines B747 Freighter Down In Phc?  
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 4156 times:

Getting reports that an MK Airlines Boeing 747 freighter has crashed in Port Harcourt - any further news out there?

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User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

I have no information regarding this crash but am interested if anyone else does.....thanks!
EGFF



All together or not at all
User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

One of their 747s should be currently in flight between NBO and ATH, as flight MKA108.


Falcon....like a limo but with wings
User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

More information, a flight plan has been filed for MKA108/801, a B747 between NBO and ATH. The ETA was 1014Z but the a/c has not landed. My guess is that a/c was scheduled to fly PHC-NBO-ATH...?


Falcon....like a limo but with wings
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

I think you're going mad.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

A crash, and only 4 replies ???

User currently offlineBelugaBoy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3719 times:


Where are you getting those reports from ?

We are now 1.30 later then your initial post and still no more news anywhere ?




User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

No MK crash reported at Port Harcourt Nigeria. I think you made a small mistake....
Schreiner



Soaring the internet...
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Apparently there was indeed an event in PHC according to a post on PPRuNe - awaiting further information.

MK Airlines is interesting in that it is owned by (and largely crewed by) Zimbabweans; operates on a Ghana AOC; and has its main operations and maintenance base in the UK.

The UK CAA have been after them for some time for various operating irregularities; and they have had numerous incidents including at least two of their DC8s destroyed.


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24822 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

I am also awaiting news on this possible crash.


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

They fly into Macau every week. I almost saw it last sunday, shame about the haze.

User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

9G-MKI. Landed short at Port Harcourt. Currently 12 survivors. (From Pprune)



Falcon....like a limo but with wings
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3614 times:


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I believe that this aircraft was already written off once before - by Southern Air Transport - following a mercury spill.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4265 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

I spotted 9G-MKI yesterday at 5 PM local in Amsterdam, at most 18 hours before the crash. Could it have flown AMS-?-PHC ?


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Of course - it's only 7 hours or so AMS-PHC.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24822 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

Any fatalities??? Is a/c complete write off??
 Sad



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3557 times:

Has it crashed ??

User currently onlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1004 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

Ceilidh,

I believe that this aircraft was already written off once before - by Southern Air Transport - following a mercury spill

No, you're wrong on that one... 9G-MKI is ex N741SJ, the aircraft that was "written off" was N742SJ which is now N806FT with Polar Air Cargo. Trust me, I went on board that bird just before it flew for the first time after it was repaired...

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Photo © Andy Martin



Andy


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

12 survivors? How many people were on that thing?!!

Or 12 survivors on the ground? How do you class a survivor that was on the ground? Anyone living on the ground that wasn't injured? That would run into the billions!!! I understand how you can count people that WERE injured on the ground, but people that WEREN'T injured on the ground???


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

If it has been Written Off it can't fly again.

User currently onlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1004 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Hkgspotter1,

If it has been Written Off it can't fly again.

You're even wronger!!!  Big grin

All "written off" means is that the cost of repairing it exceeds the net worth of the hull, and that it therefore isn't worth repairing, that's all. This assessment is usually by the company that insures the hull, as they have to pay for the repairs. So, it isn't correct to say that an aircraft that is written off cannot fly again.

In the case of N741SJ, which is NOT the aircraft that has apparently crashed today anyway, the aircraft was written off after a mercury spill because the insurers decided that it would cost more to repair than the airplane was worth. Another company disagreed with that assessment, bought the hull from the insurers, and had it repaired. Simple. Under the right set of circumstances, an aircraft that has been written off can fly again, just like a car that is written off can be repaired and driven again.

Andy


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Cx Flyboy - I understand that there were 15 pax in the upper deck plus crew, so it sounds like there may well have been fatalities.

Hkgspotter1 - nope, wrong again! As you just saw from the aircraft was indeed put back into service and is now with Polar Air Cargo. There are many instances of aircraft that have been declared write-offs by the insurers that have been returned to service.


User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Cx_flyboy,

nothing really surprising about 15 people onboard 74F - two crew sets plus ground engineers, who constantly repairing this bird, also known as "Queen of the Hangar".


User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Cx flyboy

A 747 freighter has seats on the upper deck for staff, so you might have up to 15 pob. Anyway nothing is confirmed yet, even if the rumour seems to be reliable.



Falcon....like a limo but with wings
User currently onlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1004 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

If I remember correctly from going on 9G-MKI's sister ship (the one that had the mercury spill), it had 10 first class seats on its upper deck, so I'd guess 15 smaller seats on the upper deck of this one isn't out of order.

Andy


25 Cx flyboy : Yes I realise that a freighter is capable of carrying many people, I just never realised that they were used to the full seating capacity!!
26 Gerardo : Just to get a precise information: has it crashed or not?
27 Airsicknessbag : pprune talks about the a/c to be completely lost with at least one fatality. Daniel
28 B744F : now CNN talking about 5 survivors + 2 killed
29 Eal401 : One fatality in MK Airlines 747-200F crash in Nigeria London (27Nov01, 13:21 GMT, 152 words) A Boeing 747-200 freighter operated by UK cargo carrier M
30 Post contains links Airsicknessbag : http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/11/27/nigeria.crash/index.html
31 Schreiner : DAMN, I've booked lots of cargo on that bird! May the crew rest in peace.... Let's make some insurance papers.... RIP Schreiner
32 KHI747 : What happened ? how did it actually crash?
33 ChrisKSDF : Reportedly crashed 700m short of Runway 21 (9843x197ft) at DNPO.
34 Ceilidh : I've been informed by a colleague in Nigeria that the initial NCAA investigation shows that the aircraft ran out of fuel!
35 ChrisKSDF : I've also heard from several sources at the scene that the plane appears to have run out of fuel. One source has been providing info for airdisaster.c
36 Ceilidh : Indeed so, ChrisKSDF This is what I posted on PPRuNe: I know that this will be unpopular, but it needs to be said. First, though, I would like to expr
37 Covert : that airplane, 9g-mki was regged in ghana. interesting for a british airline. that is also very odd because i have never heard anything about them in
38 Post contains images Ceilidh : Covert - they are Zimbabweans using Ghana as a flag of convenience and based out of the UK. I suggest that Edward Akohene closes down this operation n
39 AirFinAir : CNN-TV's ticker is claiming that "At least 1 dead in British Airways freighter crash in Nigeria" What a joke. Their website is correct, but they can't
40 Heavymetal : What's the story on this ship? I take it she was a frieghter straight out of the factory or no?
41 Hkgspotter1 : Can't find anything on the BBC site.
42 Skymonster : Heavymetal, No, 9K-MKI was an ex-JAL passenger bird converted to a freighter for Southern Air Cargo and then sold to Finnova and leased to MK Air Carg
43 Post contains links Skymonster : Can't find anything on the BBC site. Hey Hkgspotter1, the BBC aint the definitive word on everything. As has already been stated: http://www.cnn.com/2
44 Twaneedsnohelp : Mr Robertson, Could you please give us an idea what you do with yourself other than monitor crash reports and airline chat forums? I don't intend on b
45 Ceilidh :
46 Hani : Briton dies, four others wounded as plane crashes in Port Harcourt From Joseph Ollor Obari, Kelvin Ebiri (Port Harcourt) and Tunji Oketunbi (Lagos) RE
47 Ceilidh : Jet crash Britons recover from ordeal Four Britons who survived a jumbo jet crash in Nigeria are recovering from their ordeal. One crew member was kil
48 Lj : MEA707, you're right. The 9G-MKI left indeed AMS the evening before the crash. According to the Dutch spotterslist it departed at 17.42 local as MK621
49 B744F : Finnair HEL-TLL - 45 nm (!) MD82 is often schduled for mid-day flight
50 Post contains images B744F : ups - wrong window
51 Post contains links Airways : In Hani's post and in an article which I saw on Yahoo earlier, the Nigerian officials are telling that the injured crew members have been or will be f
52 Covert : does anybody know mk airlines call sign? does it happen to be "michael alpha" by any chance?
53 Ceilidh : MKA - Mike Kilo Alpha
54 Covert : last night i heard a "mike * alpha 106" obtain atc clearance from accra tower, he reported four souls on board, endurance 7 hours, and type as dc-8. i
55 Ceilidh : Yep, sounds like it - as I recall it's pineapple season there at the moment so there's plenty of MK activity.
56 Catflap : There were some pretty strong coments made on this topic yesterday. Some included allegations of illegal activity, and most did not reflect well on MK
57 Covert : Accident description - Status:Preliminary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 NOV 2001 Time: 01.
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