Siren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 466 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 22964 times:
Very interesting find! I'm thoroughly amused.
The three aircraft in question are, from the article: TF-ARM parked in KLIA Bay B61; TF-ARN (white) in KLIA Bay B61; and another TF-ARH (also white) in KLIA Bay M3.
That's on the Icelandic register, they're old Air Atlanta Icelandic frames. I wonder what they're doing there...
hongkongflyer From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2014, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 22790 times:
The notice is just a procedure.
Sure KUL know who is the owner of those 747s and they are clear that the owner doesn't have the ability and won't pay the amount due.
They are in the process of removing and selling those 747s to third parties (probably the scraper) and they are required by law to give such notice before they can do so.
YYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1069 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 21804 times:
Quoting hongkongflyer (Reply 3): Sure KUL know who is the owner of those 747s and they are clear that the owner doesn't have the ability and won't pay the amount due.
They are in the process of removing and selling those 747s to third parties (probably the scraper) and they are required by law to give such notice before they can do so.
I'd hazard a guess - that there is some legal obligation to take provide notice before the aircraft can be seized, as the story hints... publication in a newspaper may seem silly in this day and age, however the law was probably written when newspapers were the cat's pyjamas
scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 14661 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 20775 times:
Quoting kelvin933 (Reply 9): as far as I can see they were last used by MAS Kargo.
OK, after a bit of digging, ATDB lists the following for each frame:
TF-ARH - operated by MAS until 07/2009. Left Air Atlanta's fleet in 07/2009. Listed as part-out & derelict at KUL.
TF-ARM - operated for MAS 2004-2006, last operated by Saudia until 04/2010. Left Air Atlanta's fleet in 09/2010. Frame listed as stored at KUL.
TF-ARN - operated by MAS 2003-2010, left Air Atlanta's fleet on 02/2010. Frame listed as stored at KUL.
To me it looks as though all three were legally disposed by Air atlanta in 2009/10. Presumably sold to some Malaysian entity, hence they're still at KUL. Now that Malaysian entity may have since gone bust or disappeared, hence the request for the owners to come forward.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana!
TheFlyingDisk From Malaysia, joined Jun 2008, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19451 times:
Actually what's the SOP for derelict aircraft disposal? Because I've been flying in and out of KUL & those planes have been around since 2010 - 5 years without any action whatsoever.
CARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 1095 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 18236 times:
I am going to KUL and collect them. Will be claiming to be the owner and then fly them out myself. Will they let me? Perhaps I get fuel for free, when telling them that I gonna remove them from their property?
Number one is gonna be the a.net club home, number two gets scrapped beside the cockpit and uppder deck to transform into a cool sim and number three is gonna be my house. Sounds like a plan... ^^
col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2219 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 18060 times:
ARH is going nowhere, it is actually holding the tarmac down in place. ARH also looks like it started the break-up phase and then everything stopped. The other two have not moved since I got here in 2010, tires probably have more flat spots than Romain Grosjean Lotus.
YYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1069 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15311 times:
Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 6): I'd hazard a guess - that there is some legal obligation to take provide notice before the aircraft can be seized, as the story hints... publication in a newspaper may seem silly in this day and age, however the law was probably written when newspapers were the cat's pyjamas
confirmation in the newspaper clipping in reply 13:
Quoting caoimhin (Reply 13): A friend in KL shared this picture from the newspaper in question. Same information as the article, but it sure is striking to see.
smokeybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2014, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11522 times:
I recently misplaced my 747s, but alas, I wasn't in Malaysia last time I saw them.
25 lancelot07
: You'd better bring a few hairdryers first. Otherwise, you won't need fuel.
26 CARST
: What? These frames don't have engines hanging under the wings? Now I need the Mighty Servant One!
27 QF2220
: Talk about putting a car on blocks and then leaving it!!!
28 TheFlyingDisk
: Jeez, why is this such a big news. Isn't it common occurrence?
29 Planesmart
: Registered security interest in respect to the engines and maintenance.
30 peterinlisbon
: I parked a rented 747 at Kuala Lumpur a few years ago and when I got back someone had nicked all four engines so I thought "forget it" and came back o
31 9MMPQ
: It's surprising that only now MAHB is putting this notice out in the press as these frames have been sitting at KLIA for years. I've grown so used to
32 ua900
: Charges could add up after years of storage and they'd probably need a thorough MX check first. Betcha they can't be flown out at present even if you
33 hOmsAR
: Surprised nobody has asked this yet, given that this is a.net, but might DL be interested in these planes?
34 KarelXWB
: More info here: http://atwonline.com/airframes/malay...emoval-three-boeing-747-freighters Older airplanes are being abandoned because scrap value is c
37 scbriml
: Interesting! I wonder where the parking fees have been going? Follow the money...
38 readytotaxi
: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35068145 A copy of the bill of Sale. "Swift Air Cargo released a statement saying it purchased them from a Hong Kon
39 bennett123
: "SplunknDash". You could not make it up. It will be interesting to see what they will do with these planes.
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