TG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 11 Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1265 times:
Just a couple of brief snippets..
*The second to last B737-200 (ZK-NAI) was retired about a week ago, and is currently being fitted out for the 'end of lease' check. This just leaves ZK-NAB, whose last flight is planned for 18 December.
*Air NZ is hiring about 80 new reservations agents to keep up with demand.
* Loads are 100% to Australia and the Islands over the Xmas period - even with 3 daily 744 flights to Apia!
Freedomair737 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2001, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1112 times:
Another good piece of news i guess is the inauguration of a weekly Freedomair service from Dunedin to Coolangatta bringing the number of flights weekly from Dunedin to Australia to 6.....2 x SYD, 2 x BNE, 1 x MEL, 1 x OOL......so it's good to see there is continuing growth between the 2 countries......
Singapore_sq From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
From what I hear from my colleagues, Air NZ's Sydney staff morale is very bad and employees are leaving the airline so that they can take advantage of Ansett's generous redundancy offer. Why in the world would you stay at Air NZ and miss out on the package.
Working for Air NZ can be seen as very negative especially in Australia after what they did to Ansett Australia. Feelings towards Air NZ is very bad.
Air NZ recently released their "2 for the price of 1" in Business and First Class. If you are smart, you would know that such a deal is a "rip off" as the 1st ticket had to be purchased at full published level and when you think about, you can purchase 1 ticket at 50% discount so therefore, you can purchase 2 at the same price as one full published level.
You would have thought that Air NZ would have learnt the lesson of not to play "dumb" in the marketplace after their expensive play (US$600 million) for 12 months at Ansett.
My concern is on their product standard which is getting very outdated. For example, their First Class needs an urgent replacement. Competitors are offering sleeper seats and NZ is offering the old traditional seats and there are no plans for an upgrade for a couple of years. Their business class is also outdated where airlines such as BA, CX and SQ are installation sleeper seats. There are plans for QF to install sleeper seats in J class but QF have electronic seats in current J class which is not very old either. Compared to Air NZ which still uses manual J class seats...no wonder they are not a market leader and innovator.
With a decrease in SQ's investment in Air NZ, I don't think SQ cares what Air NZ is up to. SQ was always interested in tapping the Australian domestic market through the acquiring Ansett Australia. However, it was the ego of the Kiwis that made them acquire 100% of Air NZ (Bad Move). Greed brings about negative consequences and this is a case study we can use for many years to come.
With SQ unsuccessful in its investment strategy, it needs lots of capital to fix Virgin Atlantic which is on the brinks of collapse. If VS collapses, their will be negative implications for SQ in which it has 49% stakeholding. One hopes this will not happen but all signs point to a disasterious financial reporting from VS and as a result, this will drag SQ into RED for the first time at a significant level as they will have to book the losses of VS into their balance sheet.
TG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1092 times:
Our Sydney office proper consists of 4 people, none of which have left Air NZ.
Checkin staff etc have always been employed by NZ and worked seperately to AN - therefore they would *not* be eligible for AN's redundancy offer, which as far as I know doesn't exist - apart from 3 weeks pay which is OWED to them anyway!
As for the inflight product - it's basic but sound. Upgrade was planned to start in August, but due to AN/Sep 11 didn't happen - quite rightly, other things take priority.
2 for 1 deal? I suggest you look a bit closer at what the offer actually is.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to someone who's variously claimed to be an aviation consultant, a male, a female, a Singapore Airlines co-pilot, to live in Cathay City, etc... but I'll let readers judge who has the more credibility.
Singapore_sq From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1076 times:
I think you better get your facts right because you are WRONG! I think you are kidding yourself by pretending to know how many Air NZ staff there are at the Sydney office.
I know what I am talking about as I have friends who work at Air NZ Sydney office and I can tell you there are more than 4 people there...try 30 plus as they have their fares and ticketing department there, account managers, marketing team, sales support and customer relations plus the airport staff who work at the lounge and the check-in supervisors. For your information, Qantas do Air NZ's check-in at Sydney airport and the premium desk staff wear Air NZ uniform (ugly by the way).
I don't think you know what you are talking about...what do you mean by Cathay City...where dod you get this from? Please get your facts correct before opening your BIG MOUTH!
Docpepz From Singapore, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 1938 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1054 times:
SQ HAS written off its investment in Virgin Atlantic. THe only exposure they have to VS now is if they're gonna collapse and need extra funding. If VS makes a billion pound loss, SQ will not bear half of it.
Air NZ's doing so well now 'cos Asians(like myself) are shunning the USA and Europe for safer destinations like Australia and NZ this holiday period.
Air NZ did make bad investment decisions in AN and SQ made bad investment decisions in Air NZ. We MUST NOT get personal here because no single person was involved in this. Entire entities and organisations were involved. And a company is a company, DUH. Companies have no feelings!
We should just all learn how to pick up the pieces and move on
AirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2538 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1045 times:
look at many world wide carriers that are doing great, even though they donot have the "innovated product" installed, and also look at the carriers with the "innovated product" installed. Who is doing better at present?? The carriers with out the fancy gadgets as they have less expenses to be paid off!! If you are one to fly on an airline with Fancy gadgets then by all means do it, no one is holding a gun to your head saying, "Fly AirNZ"!! Or are they??
Inflight product....hmmm.....musnt be too bad, Voted Best J class 1999/2000, and came 4th this year.
Voted best Y class seat for an intl airline. PTV;s are on the way hopefully by next year for 744/763. (Rep E-mailed friend about it). And voted best airline to fly into LHR, this year, in many travel magazines. They were always in the top 4. So There product must not be that "out-dated" even though they have higher fares then most other airlines!! hmmm, you say you live in London, well, your fellow citizens dont have a problem, and BA is one with the "Fancy gadgets", AirNZ must be doing something right in order to be getting high load factors, compared to BA!!
Now First Class. It musnt be bad, as it is always sold out on LHR-LAX, LAX-AKL v.v. I am not sure about Tokya though sorry. And F/C is only used on these three routes. Why make it fancy when you are competing against airlines with basically the same product as you??
As i say, AirNZ concentrates on Economy class pax, and you can see this at the consistant awards they win for there Economy class service/seats/IFE. J class is also usually winning awards but not as much as Y. (Not so much IFE now...lol.... )
Many people discourage AirNZ, especialy from the UK and Europe, yet they donot know hardly anything about the carrier, nor its employees!!
I am not doubting your friend Singapore_sq!! You may be right, but i am believing TG992, as he works for AirNZ in reservations!! Key Towers...lol!!
And by the way, Aussie staff morale in SYD who work for NZ has always been bad, you just need to ask the Pax on the SYD-LAX route (lol)!!
Good to hear this about AirNZ...And by the way just an update, Dec14 is the only avaliable flight open from 1st dec-12 jan, WHERE ALL flights are booked out. Same as Qantas!!
Fqtv From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1036 times:
I fly AirNZ from Europe to the pacific/NZ about 3 times a year (usually in J). Air NZ J class is very good, excellent food and wines and even better service. The lack of electric seat controls really doesn't make any difference, and the seats are very comfortable. A bed would be better, but I've never had a problem sleeping in the seat, as it reclines quite far down (enough so that you can sleep on your side). I'm not sure if I agree with Mikey's statement that AirNZ concentrates on it's Y class product, because J class is certainly very good and doesn't feel outdated at all. J is usually almost full on the LHR-LAX route.
About the 744s to the Pacific, until November 2000 AirNZ had one weekly 747-400 flight Auckland - Nadi - Los Angeles and back (it departed LAX on Thursday nights), but this was cut due to decreased loads after the coup in Fiji, and now only the Friday and Saturady 767-300 flights remain. They also used to fly the 747s into Rarotonga, but I think this stopped in the mid 90s.
Air NZ is a great airline, and is definately comparable with Singapore Airlines and Cathay, especially in J
P.S. for really good information on AirNZ, check out the Air New Zealand Airpoints forum on www.flyertalk.com - most of the people who post there are frequent flyers (and there is a guy who works for Airpoints too) and their posts are really interesting
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1023 times:
Kudos to TG992. Hoorah!
FYI Singapore_SQ, Virgin Atlantic Airways Limited made Singapore Airlines Limited a profit of £7.2 million in the H1 ending 30 September 2001.
Also, Which?, which is the UK's leading consumer company which tests loads of things to see what is best, this year announced that ANZ had beaten SIA to the top spot in a 5-year reign by SIA. I was disappointed but was also impressed by ANZ. Couldn't be that bad then can it?
Air New Zealand - Equity Partner of Singapore Airlines
Singapore Airlines and Air New Zealand - Star Alliance Members
Singapore_sq From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
Please note that the only reason why Air NZ's First Class is sold out is because they give away "complimentary" upgrade voucher to Air Points members who are Gold and Gold Elite members.
Air NZ's awards are old and many years back dated so therefore, I would not classify them in the award-winning airline category. As for the Y class product, they are missing the PTV's which I've heard are onhold due funding problems and that the airline cannot afford them. This is not a high priority for them. If they do get them, they will only install them on 8 Boeing 747-400 aircrafts. Not much to make a huge impact.
The Virgin Atlantic issue will be a different ball game since September 11th. Keep your eyes open for a huge loss that will eat into Singapore Airlines' profits. I personally think VS is on the brinks of collapsing any moment. Even SQ would not be able to rescue them as they are finding business difficult themselves. I think they should concentrate on their own business and let others run theirs. They have a bad habit of sniffing into other people's business and when they do grab them, they make a Loss. I wish once for all, SQ can run their own business and make improvements to its own bottom line.
For your information, I do not need to clarify any names but since you insist, I can tell you that the new Regional Manager for Air NZ Australia is Paul Donovan.
Fqtv From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 984 times:
I think I'm going to have to add myself to the list of 3 or 4 people who have already pointed out that you haven't got your facts straight. AirNZ do give free upgrade vouchers to Gold and Gold Elite Airpoints members (I'm Gold Elite), but it is only two per year, and they are only one-class upgrades (i.e. you can't upgrade from economy to first, only from business to first). Also, upgrades to first are only confirmed 72 hours before the flight, so if you look on a reservation system and see that first is full, and the flight is more than 3 days away, then you know that it is full of revenue pax who are actually paying for their tickets. Saying that F is only sold out because of free upgrade vouchers is a bit strange, you obviously just made it up.
B744 From New Zealand, joined Dec 1999, 491 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 981 times:
Agree with Fqtv. By far the most upgrade certificates get used upgrading Y to J. And as mentioned, Gold Elite and Gold flyers only get 2 per year (ie enough for only one return trip). Silver members get just one. Also, they are one sector upgrades only, although for some reason, I did manage to use some AKL-LHR return a few years ago
Fqtv - I think for Jade and Silver members the upgrades are only confirmed 72 hours before departure, but am pretty sure that Gold & Gold Elite can have them confirmed at time of booking(?)
B744 From New Zealand, joined Dec 1999, 491 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 980 times:
Just checked. You're right.
"International:Two single sector one class complimentary upgrades when youtravel internationally on an Air New Zealand flight. These upgrades may be confirmed, subject to seat availability, up to 72 hours before your requested flight......"