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User currently offlineAirplanelover From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

Hi,

My grandparents were going to book a flight from Souix Falls to Tampa Bay next year towards June.

This was her Itenerary: Sioux City, IA to Tampa, FL: 1273 miles 5 hrs 40 min

American Airlines Flight AA5895 on an Embraer RJ-170/190 (jet) in coach class
(operated by CHAUTAUQUA DBA AMERICAN CONNECTION)
Departs Sioux City, IA (SUX) Sat, June 22 6:55a 1 hr 30 min
Arrives St Louis, MO (STL) 8:25a
Layover in St Louis 1 hr 51 min



American Airlines Flight AA2626 on a McD-Douglas MD-80 (jet) in coach class
(operated by TWA)
Departs St Louis, MO (STL) Sat, June 22 10:16a 2 hrs 19 min
Arrives Tampa, FL (TPA) 1:35p



Tampa, FL to Sioux City, IA: 1273 miles 5 hrs 2 min

American Airlines Flight AA3189 on a McD-Douglas MD-80 (jet) in coach class
(operated by TWA)
Departs Tampa, FL (TPA) Sat, June 29 6:19a 2 hrs 23 min
Arrives St Louis, MO (STL) 7:42a
Layover in St Louis 56 min


American Airlines Flight AA5768 on an Embraer ERJ-135/145 (jet) in coach class
(operated by CHAUTAUQUA DBA AMERICAN CONNECTION)
Departs St Louis, MO (STL) Sat, June 29 8:38a 1 hr 43 min
Arrives Sioux City, IA (SUX) 10 .

So my question is since when did American Eagle order ERJ-170's and ERJ-190's. What do they look like? Can anyone help!


Thanks!


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User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Now that's interesting. I did not know that Chataqua ordered 170's. In fact I'd check that out again as they will not be able (at least I think) to operate under the AE umbrella with an aircraft seating that many passangers under AA's pilot contract. Interesting


Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

Ummm...your parents will not be flying American Eagle. They are flying American CONNECTION.


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User currently offlineAirplanelover From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

Ok thanks to your comments and Ive got it down that its connection instead of eagle. Do u think thats literally possible. I think its wierd. How many people fit on a ERJ-170?

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Wasn't the ERJ-170 rolled out recently? I'm guessing that it would be the first aircraft in many years, if ever, to go from not even having the first flight to going into service in less than 7 months. Either that or it's a glitch.

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

AmEagle has no outstanding ERJ-170/190 orders. They have orders for 25 CRJ700, the first one will be put into service in Jan02. Besides, scope clauses limit the use of large RJs in AA´s/AmEagle´s network to 25 70-seaters, exactly the number they have ordered. If they order additional ones they have to fly themwith mainline pilots. Same applies for Chautauqua Airlines and American Connection (former TransStates).

The Embraer 170 has just recently been rolled out, the first aircraft will be handed over to Crossair in mid-2002. It hasn´t even made its first flight to date.

Seating Capacity
Embraer 170: 70
Embraer 175: 78
Embraer 190: 98
Embraer 195: 108

Regards
Flying-Tiger
http://fly.to/rorders



Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

That itinerary is a mistake or you are just making it up.

No airlines in the world operate the ERJ-170. Chautauqua does not have any coming either. The flight will be an ERJ-145.


User currently offlineTwa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 978 times:

Seiple why do you always acuse people of making things up?


life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlineMeechy36 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 969 times:

I checked in SABRE and it just shows an ERJ operated by Chautauqua to STL connecting to S80/S83's to TPA

Cheers,
Mike-BOS


User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 973 times:

check this out...
Its a pic of the American Connection livery
http://www.flychautauqua.com/planeEmbraer140.asp
The only difference is that it says Connection instead of Eagle, the eagle the tail is in solid blue, and the engines don't say RJ on them.


User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 955 times:

I said it was a possibility it was made up. People make up things on this board all the time.

User currently offlineAirplanelover From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 945 times:

Seiple - It was definatly not made up! It must of been a mistake by the website. Thanks,
Airplanelover


User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 932 times:

I also believe it was made up. 10 days ago i was searching for the same flight ( to Tampa, leaving from any city in IOWA) and there was nothing about ERJ-170 on Expedia, Orbits, Travelocity, cheaptickets......

User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 917 times:

The tail isn't in solid blue, it only appears that way from the camera angle. It is actually the shadow of the tail.

User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 915 times:

Us,
He meant the tail logo is solid blue. The eagle on the tail is all blue, not a combination of red and blue like on American Eagle aircraft.




Jason E. Seiple
JAX
jasonseiple@hotmail.com

"On the one and only TV 9!"


User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Thanks, Jason.
Thats what I intended to say.
Yeah my words weren't exactly clear above.


User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 912 times:

Flying-Tiger,

I thought the scope clause limited AE pilots to a total of 67 RJs with 45 seats or more. I didn't think that there was a cap set specifically for the CRJ-700 that is sperate from this...but I could be wrong since this is not my arena of expertise. Additionally, AE can purchase additional aircraft as long as they are growing at a set increment in relationship to the growth of AA's mainline fleet.


User currently offlineMeechy36 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 901 times:

CannedSpan,

I believe the scope clause for AA does state a maximum of 67 RJ's with 45-50+ seats. If I remember correctly the formula was for every 3 planes AA took, Eagle could take another RJ45-70. They have scooted around this issue with the ERJ-35 and now the ERJ-44.

I remember all this from 97 so it is kind of fuzzy and since I am a flight attendant and not a pilot I got most of it from eating with the crew on layovers, any AA pilots out there know for sure?

Cheers,
Mike-BOS










User currently offlineMeechy36 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 895 times:

CannedSpan,

I believe the scope clause for AA does state a maximum of 67 RJ's with 45-50+ seats. If I remember correctly the formula was for every 3 planes AA took, Eagle could take another RJ45-70. They have scooted around this issue with the ERJ-35 and now the ERJ-44.

I remember all this from 97 so it is kind of fuzzy and since I am a flight attendant and not a pilot I got most of it from eating with the crew on layovers, any AA pilots out there know for sure?

Cheers,
Mike-BOS










User currently offlineAirplanelover From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 889 times:

It wasnt made up for the last time!
The website I used is
beta.itasoftware.com
Type in SUX to TPA on the dates listed and u will see.
It was probably a glitch!


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