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User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

I was looking at flights and cities for DLX.

They have 94 flights per day.

Roughly 25% of these flights are devoted to countering WN in ISP/PVD/BDL/CMH/IND.

Another 25% are to and from BOS to MCO/FLL. AA has a small presence in these markets.

Another 25% devoted to JFK with JetBlue being the competiton.

The last 25% in EWR/IAD to Florida providing an alternative to CO and UA.

DL mainline replaced DLX in the BOS-PBI and BOS-RSW markets. DLX load factor is running slightly higher than last year, most likely due to a 35% reduction in flights and Metrojet pulling out.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 932 times:

Delta mainline is also operating the BOS-TPA flights now with MD-88s.

Jeff


User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 909 times:

Anyone think DL EX. will offer BDL-RSW? Express offers service to all Florida cities except RSW from BDL. O & D numbers for RSW from BDL are quite high, over 200, so I could see at least 1 daily possibly?


BDL-MCO 4 daily
BDL-FLL 3 daily
BDL-PBI 3 daily
BDL-TPA 2 daily


User currently offlinePhilh83 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 904 times:

I heard Delta Express was reducing their operations in ISP, cutting frequencies to FLL and dropping MCO all together. Is this true? I guess we wont be seeing mainline DL service from ISP-ATL any time soon then. Oh well.

-Phil


User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 897 times:

Unfortunately Delta has indeed cut service to ISP. They now only have FLL with Express, ATL with ASA and CVG with Comair.

User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 863 times:

DLX still flies BOS-TPA. I will fly on them in December.

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 854 times:

I would imagine DL likes to keep the aircraft in competition with other carriers. For instance no airline currently flys BOS-RSW non-stop. DL most likely gets the majority of that market just by connecting via ATL.
Why start non-stop service in that market when you are getting the business already? Better to defend Florida against B6 and WN. You can put so much capacity in a market that it's a lose-lose proposition for everyone and hopefully someone balks.


User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 849 times:

L.1011

DL is now mainline BOS-TPA. You may need to call DL and make sure the flight times are the same.


User currently offlineDLMCO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 826 times:

I heard Delta Express was...cutting frequencies to FLL and dropping MCO all together.

I seriously doubt this.


User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 816 times:

DLMCO- you might want to check my previous comments, and you'll find that I said DL was dropping MCO-ISP. They aren't dropping MCO entirely, just MCO-ISP-MCO. In fact it is a done deal and happened quite a few days ago. ISP consists of FLL along with ASA to ATL and Comair to CVG. I am completely positive of this because my husband is a supervisor for them in ISP.

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5630 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 791 times:

DLMCO- you might want to check my previous comments, and you'll find that I said DL was dropping MCO-ISP. They aren't dropping MCO entirely, just MCO-ISP-MCO. In fact it is a done deal and happened quite a few days ago. ISP consists of FLL along with ASA to ATL and Comair to CVG. I am completely positive of this because my husband is a supervisor for them in ISP.

Why did they drop MCO service from ISP? Too much competition from WN?



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 788 times:

We don't know why they dropped MCO, not because of the competition, their load factor was very good, sometime the guys in power have no sense when it comes to things like this.

User currently offlineN1993R From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 792 times:

WN has one daily ISP-MCO roundtrip, so its hardly competition.



User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 778 times:

N1993R, sorry if that came across sarcastic, didn't intend it that way. I really was saying that we don't know why the powers that be decided to do what they did. No disrespect towards WN, they are a good company, but the market would seem to need more than one choice for pax. It would be good for competition and for the pax in the long run.

User currently offlineN1993R From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 775 times:

Skyhawk - please don't get me wrong. My post was intented to BACK YOU up. WN is not competing in the ISP to MCO market with one daily RT. There is simply no market there anymore with DL pulling out and WN cutting back.

User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3978 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 763 times:

is DLX pulling out of ISP? or just cutting service?


Don't give up don't ever give up - Jim Valvano
User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 733 times:

Right now they are just cutting the number of flights.

User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 727 times:

ORD-FLL: the DLX flight that wasn't

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