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Today, Dec 4, 10-year Ann. Of Demise Of Pan Am!  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6430 posts, RR: 17
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

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Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
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User currently offlineCroFlight From Croatia, joined Jul 2001, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Working for PanAm here in ZAG - Croatia was the first "real" job in my life, and my first contact with aviation.
Therefore, I will keep my nice memories of what was once the greatest world's airline for the whole my life.

Hope to see it back one day...

CroFlight


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Pan Am was THE world leader in its day. But sadly, due to mismanagement and their inability to change with the times (and yes, unfortunately-their own arrogance and incompetence), they died off from a long, slow, painful cancer.
What's even sadder is the fact that most users on this forum are too young to have any meaningful recollection of the ORIGINAL Pan Am. Not the Marty Shugrue or David Fink Pan Am "Knock-offs".

The last original PA Clipper I saw was in August of 1991, at LAX. A 727. I never returned to LAX before they died.


User currently onlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I only flew Pan Am once. It was May 21, 1973 on flight 100 from JFK-LHR. It was a daytime flight which left JFK at 10:00 a.m. and arrived in London at 9:40 p.m.

I was traveling with my grandparents who were going to Germany on a business trip. I was 13 at the time. It was one of the few times I've been in First Class.

It's been so long, but I seem to remember the particular area in which we were seated was like a compartment. It had two rear-facing seats and two forward facing seas. There was another man in the compartment with us, but he moved to another seat after we took off. (I guess he didn't like teenagers  Smile)

I remember the stewardesses (they weren't called flight attendants back then) wore those powder blue uniforms with the derby hats. I don't remember what all we ate, but I do remember for dessert they served these really good miniature cakes called petite-fours (sp?). I raved about them so much that when we landed, the stewardess gave me 4 boxes to take with me.

It was a neat trip. It was only my second time to be in a 747 and when we returned to the US three weeks later, it was on the S.S. France. It was probably the most glamorous trip I ever went on in my life.

LoneStarMike

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6430 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

The greatest airline ever, and only 3 responses???!!!


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8016 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

I remember flying Pan Am for the first time in 1970 on a 747-100, no less!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

This was when PA was flying HKG-TYO-SFO with the 741. I remember flying at the front of Coach class and really enjoyed the flight with great food, a movie, and I even got a coloring book (I still have the book and it's unmarked in very good condition--I wonder how much it'll fetch at an airline memorabilia show  Smile ).


User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

I have been a lot on PA planes. Always had a great time on board. My step father worked for them 20 years. PanAm was one of the greatests Airlines ever!


User currently offlineTOMASKEMPNER From Mexico, joined May 2001, 389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

PAN AM was and will be one of the world´s greatest airlines. PA was a pioneer.
They flew to every corner in the world.

Its a shame no US airlines can equal PA standards,


User currently offlineAerokid From Belgium, joined Jun 2000, 348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

I'm too young to have withnessed Pan Am in their glory days (like someone pointed out earlier). Sad enough, the earliest memory I have about them is Lockerbie. But from what I know, it was indeed one of the greatest airlines of all times, if not the greatest.

I just bought a Herpa Wings 1/500 Pan Am Boeing 747-100 model and I can assure you that I'll reserve a special place for it in my collection!

Best regards,
GR.


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

The first flight I had with Pan Am was from LOS to JFK via ROB on a B707 N491PA "Clipper Chariot of Fame" on the 30th November 1978 - just over 23 years ago!

I flew with them many times subsequently, and in fact was booked to travel on PA103 on the 21 December 1987. Flew BA instead and didn't realise how close I'd come to being blown up until the following morning when I switched on my TV.

Flown a bit with Pan Am III as well - which I'm convinced will be a survivor.


User currently offlineCroFlight From Croatia, joined Jul 2001, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

C'mon, people... only few replies?
PanAm WAS aviation! It deserves much more...

CroFlight


User currently offlineBostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

How about all those great Pan Am radio and TV commercials too. I remember getting excited every spring, when it was time for the summer schedule to Europe increase at Boston to go into effect, when they would advertize heavily on the radio. I'm sure people remember the original "Pan Am Makes The Going Great" jingle from the 60s. Many Pan Am radio ads barely mentioned the airline's name...they just got you in the mood to travel with clever lyrics.

User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

We have Pam Ann on stage in London to entertain us now

User currently onlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Here's some old Pam Am ads from the early 1940's:

America meets the challenge of a changing world. Pan American Airways 1940. Notice the US Flag in the picture. It only has 48 stars.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/adaccess/T/T22/T2299-72dpi.jpeg

America's outposts of security and defense. Pan American Airways 1941.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/adaccess/T/T23/T2300-72dpi.jpeg

The good neighbor who calls everyday Pan American Airways 1941.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/adaccess/T/T23/T2301-72dpi.jpeg

The most watched-for ship in the world. Pan American Airways 1941.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/adaccess/T/T15/T1578-72dpi.jpeg

There are no distant lands by flying Clipper. Pan American Airways 1940.

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu:80/adaccess/T/T22/T2298-72dpi.jpeg

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineMD-87ER From Austria, joined Aug 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1750 times:

My Grandfather worked for PA here in Austria, right after WW2. (PA was the first airline to offer service from Austria after the war) Sadly, I never got the opportunity to fly them, though Í believe their slogan
"The world's most experienced airline"
Just found an old Germany-timetable from 1974:
PA 1 (747): Tokio-HongKong-Bangkok-NewDelhi-Karachi-Beirut-Istanbul-Frankfurt-London-JFK

What a hell of a trip that must have been!


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1384 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1736 times:

How long has it been since Eastern went on?


Treat others as you expect to be treated!
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1726 times:

My first experience with PanAm was from SFO - SEA leg of the SFO-LHR flight in 1982, 747-100 (I think, could've been a 200). I was just out of the military, and I spent the entire flight daydreaming (and scheming) about what it would be like to stay on the plane and go on to London.

My last experience was an indirect one, on 12/3/91. I was working for AA and had gone to Buenos Aires on a business trip. We were supposed to come home on the night that PA shut down, but even on Pos Space business passes, there wasn't a snowball's chance in .... of getting on AA. I spent three days trying to get out. The night we finally made it out it was sorta sad to look over and see the PA counter dark with garbage scattered around.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

I got several Pan Am's advertisement in the past.

I will post them in the future, also their sister company (you may not heard it before)PANAGRA.  Smile


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Ceilidh,

Wasn't PA103 unfortunate ending in 1988 rather than 87'?

Are you telling us stories? Or has your memory gone...


 Smile


mb


User currently offlineBoeingfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Long live the memories of those who flew the skies of Pan American World Airways.

Around the world service.

Proud sponsor of the NBC Today show, 1960's.

Professionalism, grace, and diplomacy.

You [still] can't beat the Experience!


User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

It's quite interesting that when you look at the 1970s routemap on www.panamair.org you'll notice that PA had many routes going to and from the US to Europe, US-Carribean and quite a few US-South America but not as much as the Carribean or Europe. But the Pacific Mideast and Asian routes look bare with two or three of the redlines going to the destiantions compared to the many lines you see in the places I listed. It looks to me that NWA was way stronger in the Pac than PA was. It looks to me that TWA was stronger in Europe and the Mideast. I have a route map of TW around that time but this was after their RTW flights were axed.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineCroFlight From Croatia, joined Jul 2001, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

I just want to remind you all about PanAm's contribution in both "Space oddisey" movies...

In "2001" you can see PanAm's interplanetar aircraft on a regular flight between the earth and space station in the earth's orbit...

In "2010" there is a commercial on a TV screen behind the woman speaking on a videophone... It shows PanAm's aircrafts, smiling crew and the famous sentence: "The sky is not longer the limit!"

At the time the movies appeared, nobody would think that there won't be any PanAm at 2001, or 2010... By the way, as far as I know, it costed quite a lot money to have a commercial in those movies...

Also, when PanAm's bancruptcy was announced in spring 1991, CNN used the clip from "2001"...

CroFlight


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Mx5_Boy - you're right, it was of course 1988. I'm afraid I'm getting old ... the memory is fading and senility is setting in! Big grin Big grin Big grin

User currently onlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

This is kind of veering off-topic a bit, but I just saw this article today and thought it was so ironic.

Nearly 10 years to the day that the original Pan Am went out of business, the current Pan Am flew it's last flight out of Mid America Airport.

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

Pam An quietly ends service to Mid America Airport
12/03/2001

http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg18851.html

God, what a pitiful last flight. There were only 2 passengers and the crew commemorated it with a sparkling grape juice toast.  Sad

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

My Dad worked for Exxon and we were posted in several different places, so we had to fly either PanAm, TWA or Air India (AI because we held Indian passports at the time). In the 1970s all three were fabulous airlines, especially in First Class. There were no PTVS, flat bed seats, lap top ports, etc, but the food was great, the service exceptional and the whole flying experience involved lots of style. The PanAm hostesses had the best uniforms - those sky blue knit suits were great. I still remember a Norwegian FA on a 707 flight from JFK to London in the early 70s. Her name was Olga, she looked like a fashion model and seemed to epitomize glamor and style, and provided me with an endless supply of Wrigleys chewing gum in First Class. Years later in 1988 I saw a picture of a FA named Olga in the NYTimes - apparently she was one of PA103's casualties. I'm not sure if she was the same air hostess of my childhood, but she sure looked like it.

My last flight on PanAm was on a 747-200 in about 1990 from Frankfurt to JFK in coach. I believe it was Clipper Ocean Pearl painted in the billboard style. The flight was ho hum, the service indicative of the declining levels of service on most US based carriers, and the JFK Worldport was deplorable and dirty. However, some of PA's now ageing FAs still had that air of glamor about them. They had been around the world, seen it all, done it all.

I wish PanAm were still around. That blue globe epitomized air travel,not only for Americans, but for the whole world.


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