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Replacement Retired Before Replacee?  
User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3868 posts, RR: 14
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 883 times:

Has their ever been a case where the supposed replacement for an aircraft has been retired before the aircraft it was supposed to replace? AA almost came close (within about a year) with the retirement dates of the DC-10 and the MD-11.

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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 853 times:

This is mere speculation, but the MD-90 in SAS service won't probably last as long as their MD-80's. With a fleet of just 8 aircraft, they are subject to quick "fleet rationalization" when the need arises.

Same applies for DL and their MD-90's. Maybe they outlast the 727, but it is doubtful if they will "succeed" against the MD-88.

But again - just speculation here.



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 854 times:

KTHY (Turkish Cyprus national airline) intended to replace their 727's with MD-90's. However, soon after the first MD-90's were delivered, the plans were shelved and KTHY went on operateing the 727. They have been (or are right now in the process of being) replaced by 738's.




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User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 791 times:

I wouldn't be too shocked if 1 for 1 it has happened.
About American, when did this happen? I didn't hear anything about this.
rgds,
blink182



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User currently offlineUAL_777_Pilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 795 times:

American Airlines , retired their fleet of DC-10's by the early 90's. They choose the MD-11 to replace it. However , American Airlines just this past summer replaced the MD-11 and will now opt for more B777s to compliment there 35. Btw : They sold all of there MD-11's to Fed-Ex , now they are being converted into freighters for Fed-Ex. Fed-Ex has the most MD-11's in service out of any carrier in the world. Hope this helps.

User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 785 times:

Japan Airlines will actually retire all their MD-11's before their DC-10's, if all goes according to plan. Their last MD-11 is scheduled to leave in 2004 for cargo conversion for UPS. However, their DC-10-40's will soldier on until 2005.

'949


User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 769 times:

AA began retiring their DC-10 fleet in the early 90's 1993. The last DC-10 was retired 11/21/2000 (last year).
The MD-11's were meant to replace the DC-10's. Their delivery began in 1990. AA never took the 50 MD-11's they were planning on. The last MD-11 was delivered to them in 1993. The fleet was never larger than 17 aircraft. AA decided that the MD-11 wasn't suiting them the way they would like and struck a deal with FedEx to accept their MD-11's and convert them to freighters by 2002. The last 4 MD-11 was retired on 10/15/01. Right now they are being stored at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth (AFW) and Tulsa (TUL).

Thus the DC-10 replacement MD-11 was retired 11 months after the DC-10's. Now the replacement would be the basically the 777.


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