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User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

This is from my home town newspaper, but only in Polish, could not find anything in English.

12,03,01 - plane took of from Kazan ( dont know what plane, nor what airline) with completely drunk crew. When passengers noticed it and protested, they were reminded by stewardes that they will be removed from the plane if dont come down. She advised them to "thank our wonderful pilots for doing such a good job while being drunk"!!!!!

This was sent by email to the russian newspaper NTVru.com by one of the passangers on board that plane.


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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Actually, that's kinda scary. Reminds me of an article I read in an aviation magazine long ago. Think it was called Flying or something like that.
The article described an incident that occured with a Japanese pilot who was drunk, but somehow managed to go undetected by his crew, airport personell, everybody into the cocpit. It wasn't discovered he was drunk till he lined up to take off..... ON THE WRONG RUNWAY!

User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

hehe, funny

I remeber like 3 years ago watching a documentary about aeroflot pilots. They filmed at least two crews ( in ZRH and FRA) during their between-flight brake. Both crews went trough almost whole bottle of vodka about 2 hours before flight!!!! I am not sure if they stopped tham at the gate or not.

As far as i know same thing used be going on among LOT pilots during 80' and early 90's !!!!!

User currently offlineSpeedbird092 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Article mentions about 50% of all AN-70 aircraft crashed. ...... way to design an airliner eh commies????

Just joking  Smile

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

I was on an Aeroflot flight from St. Petersburg to Alma Ata on an Il-86 in 1991. I don't know if they still do this on internal flights, but at that time in Russia, passengers always stayed seated until the pilots leave the plane first. Anyway, we landed, and waited about 15 minutes for the pilots showed up. When the cockpit door finally opened, the captain was being carried out by the other flight crew. He was absolutely hammered, babbling and drooling all over the impressive array of medals that were in his chest.


User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2566 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Why do Tupolevs and Ilyushins fall out of the sky again?
But seriously, is it true that AF pilots are permitted one glass of wine with their inflight meals?

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

The a/c was a Yak-40, of a small regional airline based in Tatarstan (Russian province). One passenger tried to report the situation to airport officials before departure, but they just ignored him. An F/A was very proud of the fact that the airlines' pilots were so good at what they do, that they were able to complete the flight safely even when drunk. Go figure.

The recent IL-76 crash in NE Russia, is also now being blamed on drunks on board. The pilots in this case are far from being at fault, though. Apparently, the a/c was carrying 4 enlisted men, who, as a punishment for being found drunk on the job, were being sent to serve in one of the less nice regions of Russia. As they were stripped of their booze before boarding, they decided to look through the a/c's cargo for some kind of replacement. What they found was a 500 liter container of anti-freeze (the kind that is added to jet fuel in winter to prevent freezing. It wasn't supposed to be onboard the Ilyushin). As they were spilling the highly flamable liquid all over the floor of the cargo hold (couldn't hold the heavy container straight), one of them apparently decided to light up a smoke...
The one thing that does bother me about this version is the fact that it is so early in the investigation. I'm not sure how they know all those details, considering the a/c blew up and crashed into the ground.


Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineKjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 976 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

remember the NWA pilot in (i think) Fargo who was drunk?

AA - Doing what we do best.
User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

I remember NWA pilot being drunk. I am not sure it was in FAR. I believe he lost his job emediately. wont find one again, for sure.

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6313 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1559 times:


Not true, several years later the NWA captain in question did get his job back and retired as a B747 captain.

This was after serving time in a federal prison.

I have no problem with that, everyone makes mistakes,the worst part of the whole incident is that he was warned by a representative of the FAA not to board the flight in question.

Not only did he ignore him, he did not tell the other two
pilots until they were AIRBORNE, thus hanging them out to dry too.

They did not get there jobs back.

The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.
User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Max Q,
i think we are talking about different pilots, cause i heard about one that happen just like a year ago or maybe even a few months. I remember he was from NW.

User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

I don't think that pilot was re-instated to NWA and I seem to remember the crew being implicated as well.

Who's to say 15 Vodka and Diet Cokes and 4 hours of sleep can't make for a safe operation?  Big grin

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

DRUNK !!!, You dont need to be drunk to line up on the wrong runway, SQ006 ring a bell ??

User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3987 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

AWspicious: Just to clarify, the pilot on the flight you referred to was AMERICAN. He was the only American pilot on a JAL cargo flight - the rest of the crew was Japanese. Cited as contributory causes of the crash was the first and second officer's failure to stop the flight from occuring with an obviously drunk captain. Mentioned in the accident report is the cultural difference between Americans and Japanese in how they deal with authority figures.

I'm tired of being a wanna-be league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!
User currently offlineCroFlight From Croatia, joined Jul 2001, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

I remember seeing numerous ukrainian drunk pilots while I was working on United Nations air base in Zagreb, Croatia...
Most of them were helicopter pilots (Mi-8) on a flights between ZAG and different UN bases in Bosnia during the war there. I remember them hardly getting off the cockpit, and bottles of vodka clearly visible trough the glass cockpit window, under their legs.
I was allways wondering how it's possible to fly in that condition?
Also, I saw a totaly drunk crew taking off from ZAG to BEG and SKP on An-26... They made it, on time. No problem...


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Thank you for clarifying. It was so many years ago when I read the article. I'm not surprised I got some of the details mixed up.
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1494 times:


crews operating contracts onbehalf of UN are not military pilots, so when they ordered by company management to fly into very dangerous regions, where every second child have Kalashnikov submachine gun, and every thrid man have Stinger - crew need some relaxation and a lot of pilots thinking that it is better to fly being drunk than to fly being totally scared  Smile

User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

It's easy to bash 'The Russians' because that's the attitude we've been programmed with for our whole lives.

Last year a BA crew were fired for getting drunk during a nightstop in Europe. Anyone remember that documentary? Very very scary.

It happens to even the most well respected airlines.

User currently offlineJetBlue320 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

The latest case of NWA Drunkeness was on a DC9-40.


User currently offlineSUDDEN From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4169 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

I saw that documentary. All he** broke out after it was on TV. HAHA!
How can you risk a job like that with a stupid thing like that!!??

When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Actualy the plane would have been A Yak42 of Tatarstan Air

Pershoyu Spravoyu Litaki!
User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

The article names Ilyushin 144 as one of the most dangerous airliners. Can someone tell me what's that? Never heard of it...

User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (14 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1391 times:

Could it have been referring to the Tupolev 144, also derisively known as the Concordski? It had design and testing problems leading to several incidents. One crashed at the 1973? Paris Airshow due to a French Mirage spy plane getting too close, which doomed the project, if it wasn't already doomed by the enormous expense to run and maintain the aircraft (apparently needed new tires each time it was used, etc). I believe another crash and a cannard falling off have given it a bad reputation as well. Not getting into the various design and technology arguments, as well as the politics, per flight hours (only a few thousand hours, several incidents), it probably is the most dangerous plane, despite being out of service. BTW, NASA used one to due SST testing in the late 1990's with great success. There is one on display in Germany, and at Moscow Zhukovsky, plus other places. Hope this helps!

User currently offlineDigitalone From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (14 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

My friend was telling me of an Olympic Airways experience she had. Apparently, they were meant to depart from Athens to Sydney that day, and for some reason, the flight was to be delayed for a couple of hours. they were only told that the flight was to be delayed after boarding the flight. so they disembarked and went to the bar somewhere in the airport for drinks. at the bar, they met a number of OA flight crews, on that particular flight, having drinks. they even chatted with them. apparently, the FAs were telling them how much they enjoyed these delays as it allows them time to drink....scary. oh well, dont know how credible that story is tho..


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