Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18 Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
I just saw an article on http://www.n-tv.de (in German only) that Boeing wants to cut it's production from now 48 planes/month to 24 planes/month.
That would mean that for the first time Boeing would deliver less planes than Airbus. But the article also said that Boeing hopes that Airbus would also reduce the number of planes built since the demand for new planes is basically zero and there are enough planes available on the used-plane-market.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Airbus only delivers on average 20-25 planes a month anyway, and with all the stuff going on, I doubt they can keep it up. Their 340-600 program is in a bit of rough water as well - one of the two launch customers (Swissair) has cancelled all orders and the other (Virgin) is talking about delaying their purchases.
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1290 times:
... another early 340-600 customer, Lufthansa, however, seems to desperately need them: they are bringing back the originally retired 747-200 which the 340-600 are supposed to replace.
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3480 posts, RR: 34 Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1273 times:
Airbus had planned to increase the production by a remarkable amount already next year. This plan has been postponed for several years. So, this might be the adjustment for Airbus.
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Rhino4ever From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 146 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1272 times:
I would imagine Airbus is licking their chops over this one!!!
LON-CHI From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1240 times:
I would imagine Airbus is licking their chops over this one!!!
Airbus is in the same boat as Boeing (unless they plan on giving their planes away).
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
Airbus has a different approach to the situation. They think it is cheaper to keep employees now - even with orders slowing - than to fire and rehire them when business picks up. In the past this has caused several problems with Boeing, last time they had fired 1000s of employees and when they had to be rehired during the boom they first had to train them and had serious quality issues which led to a shut-down of several assembly lines. This was extremly costly. I think Airbus wants to avoid this, especially the drain of skilled workers.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1225 times:
Tiger,
It's not as simple as a matter of philosophy. Laying off workers in Europe, particularly Germany and France, is MUCH more difficult and more costly than in the U.S.
Boeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 442 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
Boeing has announced ~30,000 layoffs in total over the next year. Two rounds of layoff notices have been served with layoffs beginning just before christmas.
Elal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
i hope Branson decides to order 777-300ers instead of the a340-600s...imagine business and first class on a virgin 777!!!
About airbus, they will be suffering as well as boeing through these tough times. They fear they might not be profitable in 2 years due to the large cancellation of orders from airlines. Luckily they are owned by the government.
CEO of boeing said in the LA times he predicted a 3-4 year recovery period with Boeing and Airbus as well as an average loss of 100 billion dollars.
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4759 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
I guess this is consistent with the plans to close Renton...
Boeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 442 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
The picture on the Renton plant closing is a bit murky. Moving a production line is a long-term plan and is costly in the short-term.
The plans may likely be pushed off further into the future. It doesn't make financial sense to put money into moving a production line when money is tight.
Hoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
I would think both Boeing and Airbus would face a common threat by the hundreds of like-new aircraft parked at Marana and Mohave, etc available for lease and sale.
What an ugly situation that Boeing's biggest competitor is Boeing itself!
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