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French ATC On Strike  
User currently offlineF+ Rouge From France, joined May 2000, 210 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

There will be a 36-hour strike of French air traffic controllers from 1800 GMT tonight due to which Air France will have to cancel about 85 % of their domestic and medium range European flights. Air Lib is heavily affected, too.

Regards,

F+ Rouge

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User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Does this mean, that not the complete ATC is ons strike? Or why are "only" 85% of AF's domestic and medium range European flights? What about the longhaul flights?

What a mess for the passengers.....

Regards
Gerardo



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User currently offlineF+ Rouge From France, joined May 2000, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

95 % of long-haul flights are maintained. I think that not all the labour unions are participating, but the following: USAC-CGT, FNTE-CGT, SNAC-CFTC and SPAC-CFDT.

Regards,

F+ Rouge


User currently offlineF+ Rouge From France, joined May 2000, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

Some additional information for spotters: Due to this strike Paris CDG will see a BA Boeing 747-400 inbound from LHR tomorrow.

Regards,

F+ Rouge


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Why are they on Strike? And why have people let them go on strike? ATC is essential. I think some people need their heads sorted out. I'm all for the ATC getting higher pay and whatever but it shouldn't come to a strike! Oh well...

British Airways plc.
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Strike action by French air traffic controllers


British Airways is expecting disruption to its services later this evening (Wednesday December 5) and tomorrow (December 6) as a result of strike action by French air traffic controllers.

The airline will operate only four of its scheduled services between the UK and France during the 36 hour strike which starts at 6pm on Wednesday December 5 and finishes on Friday December 7 at 6am. The remaining 93 scheduled flights due to operate to and from France during that period have been cancelled.

British Airways is also expecting some delays to a number of its services due to re-routing to avoid French airspace.

British Airways apologises to its customers for any inconvenience and is working hard to ensure that its schedules get back to normal as soon as possible, due to a situation which is clearly beyond its control.

Passengers who are booked to fly on a cancelled service will be re-booked on to the next available service to their destination or offered a full re-fund.

The airline has asked passengers due to fly to or from France today to call 0845 77 333 77 for the latest information.



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User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

AGAIN? Damn french.


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User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Does anybody know if some long-haul flights may be diverted to other European airports, such as AMS or BRU?

Ivan



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User currently offlineD-AQUI From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

I am really fed up with all those strikes in France and Belgium that are affecting the transport sector. This is also a blow for the economy which is not in very good shape these days. Not very sensible, stupid indeed.
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User currently offlineIls 09 From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

It could be interesting watching widebodies follow MF rules in the circut. Cross midfeild check the active cross over decend on the dead side then join downwind. hehe

User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

Ahhh. This just shows to power of the ATC system. Without them, airlines can't function meaning that the world can't function. GO ATC!  Big thumbs up Didn't the French ATCs have a deal a while ago where they got in trouble because they would speak French and not English?

User currently offlineEBOS From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Three SAS flights (SAS 567, 571, 569) and one Corsair flight (CRL087) diverted to Ostend so far.


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User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1563 times:

It looks as if all AF flights ex AMS are cancelled as of 19.00CET

regards
Laurens


User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1551 times:

Hello,

On strike... Once again. These strikes are totally irresponsible because the governement has told the ATC people that there won't be a privatization of the ATC system.

Once again, these strikes are the result of corporatist and ultra-leftist unions, which encourage to go on strike any time the idea of evolution is involved.

Shame on them.


Best regards,
Alain Mengus


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Shouldn't there be a mechanism in place to stop disruption to such critical services?

I have no idea what the issues are, but surely this should not be the ultimate result of disagreements between employees and their employers?

What if the emergency services went on strike? (Are they allowed to?)

Regards


User currently offlineBenny 26 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

well the emergency services can do, and have done. I remember when the fire service went on strike in some regions of Britain. The army provided cover.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

French ATC is on strike because all the ATC's in Europe are getting ready to switch to a common set of standards. The current system is a bit like if each state in the U.S. had its own FAA and no national standards.

I don't know the specifics, but I'm sure the English Language requirement is a sticking point. The French hate to use English, even if they know the language.

charles


User currently offlineKirstey From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Cfalk is right - it's about the control of airspace above Europe. The JAA want control centralised rather than the coountry in question being responsible for it as defined by the Chigaco Convention - for once the French are spot on!

It's not dangerous - just inconvenient!


User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

The French ATC must strike every six months or so.


The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineF+ Rouge From France, joined May 2000, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

You are right, Alain. Shame on them. And this even more as their strike is against the liberalization of the European skies and the "ciel unique" i.e. the integrated European skies - both being essential to reduce delays in Europe and thus awaited impatiently by airlines and frequent flyers.

Regards,

F+ Rouge


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