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Pic of AA 777 on airliners.net ?  
User currently offlineFedEx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

I was just wondering if anyone knew if this picture
on airlines.net of a AA 777 is real. I was told by a
person at LGB (Boeing) that AA was going to get the
777 in late January. If this is real, a miracle has happened
because Boeing delivered a aircraft early! If some one
could help me out I would be grateful! And if I'm wrong,
forgive me!

Thanks!

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User currently offlinejz From United States of America, joined May 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

If this picture is real, then AA is not going to introduce a new livery.
Fedex: I read it somewhere that AA and DL were talking to the Asian airlines (MH?) to take delivery of their 777s when they come off the assembly line because the Asian airlines couldn't afford them. Maybe this is one of those 777 original intended for an Asian customer?


User currently offlinejz From United States of America, joined May 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

I suspect the AA 777 might be a hoax. Look carefully, there is no "Nxxxx" registration number on the rear side of the fuselage; and there is no "American Airlines Luxury liner" caption beneath the cheatline under the cockpit window. Also, I would expect AA to take delivery of their 777 with quite a bit of fanfare. But there is nothing. If the picture is taken in Seattle, it might be a test flight by Boeing. But the photo's caption says it's taken in DFW. Strang?

User currently offlineLaura Watson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Just checked with someone in Dallas & he was baffled by this. There was nothing on AA's web page either.

User currently offlineFedEx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

I just did the same thing Laura did and I paged
my AA pilot friend! The people at AA told me that
they plan to have a roll out ceramony at DFW at
the end of the month. She said that AA will also have
many press messages! She wouldn't tell me if it's going
to have a new livery or not! I think photographer should
fess up. What do u think?


User currently offlinejr From United States of America, joined May 1999, 968 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

On my way back from my vacation, I was told by an AA flight
attendant that AA just took delivery of its first 777. She also
said that they were not going to introduce a new color scheme
for the simple reason that the current scheme is cost effective
and easy to maintain. (She also said that the AA 777 would
do some proving runs to Australia ...). I found it very hard to
believe, but this picture could very well be real. Having said that
I am indeed surprised at the lack of any news on this 777
-rather strange (i remember continental's 777s arrival was just
about everywhere).



I've flown on 9V-SPK.
User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

It is a fake, I'm sure of it. Together with the AA plane, another picture was posted by the same photographer, showing a B777 in the old United livery. The B777 never flew in the old livery!!!
I must confess that the photo's do LOOK real, and it very amusing.
He should make one with an Eastern B777 or a Braniff A340...



Shiek!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

I think I am going to call it a phony. Not a bad job though.

The aircraft is pretty harsh to the background. and the bottom aft fuselage looks like it has been chopped to form the tail (767???) If it was a real on the slope wouldn't look as pixeled because the background color would have blended with the aircraft. It just looks a lot smoother. I also noticed that the tailplane casts a shado to the rear of the aircraft while the main body of the aircraft appears to be casting a shadow to the front. There is also no darkening and the part of the engine cowling that is under the wing.

Now moving of to Dealy Plaza...........



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

I called AA and they said they are coming at the end of this month. I also search the photographer and this is his only photo at Dallas and all the rest are from Portugal. I think he might of bought a model and put it in his back yard law down and took the shot. But it is a fake I think.
Iain


User currently offlineTAD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

The first 777 for American should be N770AN line number 185. Line number 184 (a 312 for Singapore) was scheduled for delivery in December. One of the press releases said that Boeing delivered some airplanes early to make their goal of 550 deliveries. So it is possible.

I agree that the photo looks wrong without a registration number. Would it be required on both sides to fly the aircraft? If not with Boeing being in a hurry maybe they only used the test registration on the left side.

TAD


User currently offlineFedEx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

JZ your right this is no luxury liner and I also
noticed that there is no American Flag on the
top of the tail! The tail is subject, Where are the
rudder creases and where is the bubble on top
for satellite tracking. I find this hard to belive that
AA would not make a big deal out of this!!


User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

I might have beleived it, except I checked the other photos which that photographer had submitted. The only other one was a picture of a United 777. It was in the old color scheme --- blatantly false. You have to get up pretty early in the morning to.....

User currently offlineFedEx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

TAD you can't fly a aircraft in the United States
with out registration numbers! Its illegal! If it
where to happen they would pay big fines. I
agree with A330 and his great research along
with JZ! It's a fake and I think this photo and his
others (fakes?) should be taken off! What do u
think?


User currently offlineTAD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

I agree based on A330s comments. I was just noting that being the next line # it is possible that it might have been delivered.

But if this guy also did the 777 in old UA colors then is is very likely a fake.

TAD


User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

I have alerted the Staff at Airliners.Net and at American and United. Leagal Action will be taken if needed.


Veni, vidi, vici.
User currently offlineL188 From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Your right the repository dosn't need to have manufactured photographs on the site.

But wouldn't it be neat if there was a page to submit doctored photos of aircraft in schemes that you would like to see????

Just a thought


User currently offlineFAUnited7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

This is another fake (copied by the same person). Only us and continental own the 777 so far. anyway, you can tell its fake! Look at the back, next to the last dorr, you'll notice 2 windows AFTER the last door (4L-R). These ARE NOT present on a real 777, but on the A300 they are.

User currently offline767-300ER From United States of America, joined May 1999, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

`this photographer does have a web site with manufactured photos its not wrong as long as he does not claim they are real!!!

User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

That is definately fake. All websites (including Boeing's) don't show any AA 777 deliveries till 1/99. Look at the reflection on the top of the fuse, there are clouds on it, but no clouds in the sky! I have seen some programs that create aircraft and put them on a background that look real (Ames Research center I think).

BTW, check out Lawerance Feir's pics. Most are fake, of real aircraft, but not real backgrounds. They are really nice.


User currently offlineFAUnited7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Anyway, look at the size and color of that tale. Its cream white, not the normal silver, and the ail is SOOO small!

User currently offlineNYC Int'l From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

As FAUnited7 mentioned the AA 777 pic has a windows after the rear right door, the UA 777 in the old livery does not have windows after the the rear right door. I have to admitt at first I was had!

User currently offlineFedEx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Hey all! Where is the credit for noticing this stupid
poorly done fake job! hehe! This was a great laugh
and was fun. But to be serious for a moment, I think
that this photographer shouldn't be allowed to admit photos
to this site unless there is a fake section ! hehe So much
for being serious! I think Paul and the airliners.net staff
are doing the right thing! Let's just hope this doesn't happen
again! I will be watching!


Take Care,
ALL!


User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

FedEx, you should get all the credit for discovering this! Way to go! I know of at least 15 fakes on here. Some of the are quite good. I think they should be allowed, but only if in the remarks it says something about it (ex: Image Computer Generated, Photo Digitally Retouched, etc.)

User currently offlineFAUnited7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

What are those other fakes besides todays?

User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Look under Feir. His pics are all fakes. He takes real pics of aircraft and real backgrounds, then puts them together. They are cool!

User currently offlineNorm From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

The AA didn't raise as much of a flag as the UA a/c...I thought "why on earth would UA paint a 777 in old colors?"

I do believe, though, that there should be some mention in the caption that the image is c.g. I've only posted a couple of my numerous photos on the site, and I never really thought about altering them. What a field day you could have :) What a great thing it would be to see a Braniff A340.

Norm


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