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User currently offlineLanPeru From Peru, joined Jun 2001, 645 posts, RR: 10
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 929 times:

Hi, I was planning to take a big trip upon my graduation in 2003 US-Europe-South America. Here is my dilema, I will be 17 at the time, so will I be able to travel alone? I plan to take a flight from LAX-LHR LHR-FRA FRA-ATH FRA-MAD-SCL SCL-LIM LIM-CUZ LIM-AQP SCL-EZE :-d

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User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 910 times:

Yes, I am 16 and I can travel alone. But, it varies whether yo have to have an usher through the terminal depending on the airline, so check with them. Sounds like a great trip!

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 897 times:

I have been traveling alone since I was 14, it is really no big deal! Choose your airline carefully as if you go with a US carrier you will not be allowed to drink, if you go with a European carrirer they will let you even if you are not 18!
Iain


User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 893 times:

When I was 9 I travelled on DL to CDG from ATL and I got to walk through the terminal by myself, etc.

User currently offlineGdabski From Poland, joined Oct 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 886 times:

At 17 you can't be a UM. Correct anyone if I'm wrong.

User currently offlineBombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 882 times:

Yeah, at about 15 I decided it was pointless to be an UM any longer and began doing it myself. The airlines really don't care I think. Gdabski, I'm pretty sure you're right.

/gwl


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 873 times:

Some rules have changed regarding UM since 9/11, and airlines are enforcing all types of rules more carefully now so do some research. However, at 17 years old you should be able to travel "as any other adult", even on international flights.

User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 874 times:

Hi Lan Peru:

Great trip! This is your finally itinerary or is a possibility? Well here are a list of airlines for your travel:

LAX-LHR, with British Airways
LHR-FRA, with British Airways
FRA-ATH, with Olympic or Lufthansa
ATH-FRA, with Plympic or Lufthansa
FRA-MAD, with Iberia

With the rest of your itinerary I'm confused but here are my alternatives:

Alternative 1

MAD-LIM, with Iberia
LIM-CUZ, with Lan Peru
CUZ-AQP, with Lan Peru
AQP-LIM, with Lan Peru, AeroContinente, TANS or Aviandina
LIM-SCL,with Lan Chile, Lan Peru or Aero Continente
SCL-EZE, with Lan Chile
EZE-LAX?, with Delta

Alternative 2

MAD-SCL, with Lan Chile or Iberia
SCL-EZE, with Lan Chile
EZE-LIM, with TACA Peru
LIM-CUZ, with Lan Peru,
CUZ-AQP, with Lan Peru
AQP-LIM, with Lan Peru
LIM-LAX?, with Lan Chile

Alternative 3

MAD-EZE, with Iberia or Aerolineas
EZE-SCL, with Lan Chile or Aerolineas
SCL-LIM, with Lan Chile, Lan Peru or Aero Continente
LIM-AQP, with Lan Peru
AQP-CUZ, with Lan Peru
CUZ-LIM, with Lan Peru
LIM-LAX?, with Lan Chile, Delta, American or Continental


Possible aircraftin you route:

British Airways: 747-400,737-400, 757-200 or 767-300
Lufthansa: A300-600, A310-300, A320, A321
Olympic: 737-400
Iberia: A320, A340-300
Lan Peru: A320 or 737-200Adv, 767-300ER
AeroContinente: 727-100 737-200Adv, 767-200ER
TANS: 737-200Adv
Aviandina: 727-200
Lan Chile: 767-300ER, A320, A340-300
Delta: 757-200, 767-300ER, 767-400ER.
TACA Peru: A319
Aerolineas: A340-300, 747-200
American: A300-600, 757-200, MD-82, 757-200
Continental: 737-700, 737-800, 757-200.

Best Regards,
RJ_Delta.



User currently offlineCaptainAD From United States of America, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 865 times:

just as everyone else has said, you can travel alone at 17 without any problems. i've been traveling alone since 14 on international flights. you could always get the UM service if you want. it'll cost you $25 each way on LH. have a safe trip!

User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 861 times:

A 17 year old UM? Never heard of that. You can travel alone if you are 14 or older (maybe even 12?). I don't know until what age airlines offer UM service. But I remember once we had a UM inbound, I think it was on Sabena, he was 15 years old and the stewardess was very happy when I came to pick him up from the aircraft, seems like he tried to start flirting with her during the whole flight. But what could she do, she could not ignore him, his parents payed for a UM service which includes that the stewardess keeps an eye on him during the flight. That poor lady!

User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 850 times:

The only concern may be transiting between countries without a parent or guardian with you.

User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 848 times:

Under 5 - Cannot travel without escort

5-12 - Must travel as UM

12 onwards - may be classified as UM at the discretion of parent/guardian.



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User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 839 times:

Yes, it is true that most airlines consider 12+ adult for pricing and travel purposes; but you may want to take the time to check every country you are going to for entry documentation needed. For example if you are traveling to Mexico along any part of your trip (I know things can get revised) you would need to have a notarized letter of consent signed by both parents.
Spain requires as follows from Timatic
----------------------------------------------------
Minors:
- all minors from 15 up to 18 years of age must hold their own
passport or National Identity Card.

Minors up to 18 years of age (from all countries) and
travelling unaccompanied must hold:
1. Passport; or
2. National Identity Card, and
exit form from country of origin certified by the parent(s)
or legal guardian. This certified exit form must be
legalized by their local authorities, e.g. police,
immigration authorities, etc.
-----------------------------------------------------
I didn't see any other countries along your proposed route that required anything special, but a great rescource if you have registered for it is http://www.timaticweb.com
if you are not a registered user delta gives you limited acces to it through their website
http://www.delta.com/travel/trav_serv/intl_travel/timatic/index.jsp


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