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ATR72/EMB120 Questions  
User currently offlineCaptain.MD-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 704 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1143 times:

In January I will be flying MCO-RSW-MIA (Orlando-Fort Myers-Miami) on Delta connection and AA Eagle. The first flight is on an

EMB-120 (Delta connection)

and the second is on an

ATR72

Has anyone flown on either aircraft, if so what were the flights like? Any feedback would be appreciated, as I have never flown on a turboprop b4 and since I fly on an MD-11 just b4 the EMB-120, I figure I might be in for a shock  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Twins,twins, everywhere.... but where are the three holers?
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User currently offlineDeltaASA16 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1075 times:

I can guarentee you will be in for a shock!!! I fly on the EMB-120 Every year between Lynchburg and Atlanta a couple times. Most of the time the flights are bumpy during decsents and takeoffs. the flights are relatively smooth during cruise flight. However, the bumpiness all depends on the conditions outside the plane. I have been on flights where there were hardly any bumps. But when the plane bumps, you feel it. I have flown on a MD-11 from Atlanta to JFk and when the plane expierences turbulance it is mushy and throbing. On the EMB It feels like the plane is is being smaked around like a hammer. However, all of my expierences on the EMB except for one have been fine. The cabi does vibrate a good deal. you have to place your drink on a napkin if you don't want it to ride off the tray into your lap! I was fluying from LYH to ATL when we flew through a ice storm, or something like that. The ice hit the airplane and had popping noises. I didn't know what it was for 5 minutes. I thought the plane was falling apart! Flying in the small planes is more fun cause you can feel the sense of flying. When you're in those huge jets, sure you feel like you'er flying, but it doesn't match up to flying in the turboprops!

I suppose you are flying Comair! I fly in the Atlantic Southeast Airlines EMB-120's. heck, they are the same planes!! Have a good flight!

Adam
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User currently offlineCaptain.MD-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1066 times:

Cheers Adam I was hoping for a response like that! I can't wait to fly on the props, it will make a fun change  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Twins,twins, everywhere.... but where are the three holers?
User currently offlineLatechpilot From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1056 times:

You'll probably enjoy the flight on the ATR much more than the Brasilia. The ATR's "jet-like design" offers stand-up headroom, roomy, quiet, and comfortable four abreast seating for up to 66 passengers. Two flight attendants will welcome you to the pressurized, air conditioned cabin and serve you snacks and beverages inflight as you relax in your reclining seat.

With advanced avionics, full weather radar and 300+ mph airspeeds, The ATR assures passengers all the convenience and security of travel on state of the art aircraft.

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Take my word for it, I've flown the ATR hundreds of times. Its a great airplane!



User currently offlineSophieMaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1048 times:

If the ATR is that wonderful, why is Coex replacing them with ERJs? And how much difference is there between the ATR42 and 72?

User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

Well, is that a real question?
Coex is replacing them with ERJ's for many reasons. Fleet comanality for one. Jetbridge boarding, the ERJ is only 240MPH faster and the air conditioning actually works year round. The ATR's Express has left are the -320 series that really are good aircraft however they were the grunt aircraft in our ATR fleet. The -500's were the hot rods and could out run a Brasilia at the lower altitudes and they were very quiet. The company thinks that even operating short routes with the jets, if the RASM's are high enough, or we go to a fee per departure system, the fleet commonality will still make the ERJ a money maker on ATR routes. The passangers will certainly enjoy the change. I love the ATR, I'm just answering your question.



Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
User currently offlinePanther From Bahamas, joined Jun 2000, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

I have flown on Comairs E120's many times, I must say they are quite pleasant.

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Eagles ATRs are also nice, especially the 72. It feels like your on a big plane.

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I guess any airliner bigger than what I fly(BE-1900) is awesome.

I must say my heart belongs to the Dash 8 it is the best Turboprop.

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panther


User currently offlineLortab 7.5mg From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 805 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

IAHERJ,

Give the lady some slack, she's just asking an honest question. After we're not all knowledgeable about aviation here.

Thanks for the answer though.


User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

I've done over 80 flights on the Brasilia. If you have any specific questions on it, I'll be more than happy to answer them.

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User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1007 times:

I flew Air Dolomiti's (EN) ATR42 & 72 several times. Each of these flights was great. The planes were roomy, quiet and fly like a big plane.

SailorOrion


User currently offlineCaptain.MD-11 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Leather seats, what airline is that with? They look sooooooooo nice! Can't wait to fly on both, it will be a gr8 change! What is the take-off performance like on these babies?


Twins,twins, everywhere.... but where are the three holers?
User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 989 times:

Regarding the EMB-120. ASA and Comair's EMB-120's are mostly the RT series. The interiers are comprised of seats that do not recline as they are fixed in a semi-reclined position. The lavatories are located in the front with the galley. The back row of seats is like a bus with about 5 across.

COEX has the EMB-120 ER's. They can carry more weight thus weight restricting flights less often. The entire fleet (of which only maybe 9 are still flying out of 32) has had the interior redone. The seats recline and the lav is in the back as well as the galley. There is a small door between the galley and the cargo compartment which allows the catering people to cater teh galley from the rear thus allowing the boarding process to be done at the same time. I've logged over 2,000 hours in the EMB-120 in both the right and left seat and I think it is a wonderful airplane. It is probably the toughest aircraft I will ever fly from here on. The F/O (at least at COEX) is worked the hardest on the Brasilia. The overhead switches are all manual and require much attention on the taxi in and out as well as after departure and right before landing.

If you are looking for the nicest Brasilia's flying in the U.S. today, you might want to check out Skywest. They operate basically brand new Brasilia's along side some of the oldest models of the 120. The COEX Brasilias are old but look very nice inside and out due to the recent modifications. Take a look in the cockpit to see where the aircraft have aged though. Coex puts some neat extra's up there like the dual TCAS where some other airlines did not opt for this. But we as pilots don't seem to take care of the cockpits of these as far as cleanliness goes. Same goes for some of our older ERJ's. Quite a shame if you ask me.

Sorry to seem as though I was jumping down Sophie's throat as I was just attempting to be a bit sarcastic and humurous. I guess it didn't work.



Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
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