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Can Lew-Fox Rebuild AN Back To Its Former Glory?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9498 posts, RR: 13
Posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Hey guys!

Ansett Australia was the second largest carrier in Australia providing high level of services.

However, Lew and Fox plan to rebuild Ansett Australia into an airline with an entire Airbus Narrowbody fleet. They plan to bring in 29 A 320s and get rid of the rest like the B 767-200s, B 737s etc etc.

Basically, Ansett Australia has to start all over again.

However, will they rebuild Ansett Australia back to its former glory? Let's say within 2 to 3 years? Will we ever see widebodies in Ansett's fleet again?

My guess is that.. It takes 3 to 4 years for them to rebuild Ansett. Afterthat, we may see widebodies like A 330/340, or the B 777-200ER for the widebody fleet. Also, many aviation enthusiasts told me that AN International will resurrect in some form and I will not rule out the B 747-400 as well.

So, will Ansett be as big as it used to be? If not, bigger with a more comprehensive International Network? Also, will we see Widebodies flying for Ansett Australia again?


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User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

United Airline

You must think all us Aussies have crystal balls to
see in the future.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineVapourTrails From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Well I certainly hope they and all AN staff can make it happen!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I'll be flying with them.

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User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 680 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Only time will tell....

Hope So Smile

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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1519 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

short answer: no

long answer: well you have to define what "former glory" means and then you have to think whether the new, smaller AN is better than the big, but debt ridden AN, and then you'll have to...............

realistic answer: if Ansett cuts staff, cuts routes, gets good managements, Unions cooperate, etc etc, then they will...
sarcastic answer: oh my god, of COURSE!

Qantas answer: let's hope not...

Virgin Answer: not if they don't lend us terminal space...

John Howard answer: we're only concerned about the employee of Ansett... (but we still don't want to pay their entitlements too soon...)

Air NZ answer: uh... you mean bigger than us?? no no no...

SIA answer: ...................................

Star Alliance answer: please go to ansett.com



User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

United Airline

As i've posted elsewhere,"Qantas Sticks the Boot In" is unfortunately more bad
news for Ansett, this war (If Ansett gets started)
is starting to get rough, this will make it even harder
for AN to get the business traveller.:

From Tues "Sydney Morning Herald" http://www.smh.com.au/news/0112/11/national/national7.html

Qantas also announced changes to its domestic operations yesterday, with flights every 30 minutes in morning and afternoon peaks between Sydney and Brisbane, and Melbourne and Brisbane. It is a deliberate strategy aimed at gazumping its main rival, Ansett, ahead of the relaunch planned by Solomon Lew and Lindsay Fox in February.

The new services follow the successful launch of the CityFlyer service to Melbourne last July.

Qantas will also introduce package meals, rather than tray meals, to all flights except Perth.

There will also be the potential for automatic swipe-card check-in for all passengers from January, overcoming queues.

Qantas executive general manager sales and marketing, John Borghetti, said domestic passengers were insisting on flexibility. "It's now a question of speed and frequency - not just in the terminal but in the aircraft," he said.

The extra flights to Brisbane puts Ansett Mark II under enormous pressure, especially as Virgin Blue and Qantas have unveiled major discount ticket offers for February and March.

Although bookings with Ansett are healthy over the Christmas holidays, no tickets can be bought for travel after January 31 - the day the Lew-Fox syndicate is due to take over operations. While they say they are committed to the sale, they are still wrangling with Singapore Airlines, which they want to manage the airline.

Industry analysts now say Mr Lew and Mr Fox may need to acquire the airline progressively from the administrators, Mark Mentha and Mark Korda, because there are too may logistical difficulties to surmount.

User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1519 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

yes that's very bad news indeed...


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2378 times:


How many times have you posted that article, and on how many forums?

Are you paid by QF as some on pprune are suggesting?

 Smile Smile

I'm sure F/L were expecting things along the lines of this. And they have indicated they are cashed up and prepared.



User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

I sure hope to see Ansett with widebody aircraft and flying international again, however on a previous post I did state that going by a source from Ansett, that this is under consideration for the future, depending on how the Ansett (domestic) peforms.

But once again who knows, how the new Ansett will peform I really hope that they become a succesful airline. It's great to see Qantas doing well but I like the idea of seeing Ansett being a fully serviced domestic and international airline. It's too monotonous seeing just Qantas and Qantas subsideries flying domestic and International. This new Australian airlines is great but once again it doesnt really interest me as much as hearing Ansett is re-establishing international flights.

Once again it depends on Ansett next year, if they do well then we know our answer..

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