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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

IS it true that every pilot candidate at ryanair has to pay 75€ to ryanair ?

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User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

If you want to apply to these maffia bastards, you need to pay 50 Pounds!!!!

Ryanair are the most criminal and unprofessional airline I know, And I would never fly with them. My life is worth more than a cheap price.



Shiek!
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Yes, there are also other costs involved; I think the recruitment part of their website provides the info.

Doesn't bother me, I'm only a pax who cares about the price of the ticket!

Regards


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

It is true, how else do they give away such cheap tickets!
Iain


User currently offlineToo low From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Aren't you an ex-Sabena A330 ??

I agree it's not fair to pay 50£ to apply for a pilot job but you can't say that Ryanair is unprofessional and a maffia. What's your base to say that they are unprofessional ? It's a bit easy and demagogue to say : low cost=lower security.Southwest, Ryanair, easyJet, Go, ... never had any casualty. I regularly fly with Ryanair and easyJet and never had any problems.
The monopoly of Sabena/DAT was/is a maffia !

Don't worry A330, Ryanair will be able to fly without you..... Smile


User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1153 times:

And are you a pilot then?
I know that Ryanair is doing illegal things concerning safety.
Also, even Mc Donalds doesn't charge for sending resumé's. This is plain slavery. Also, I have nothing against Low cost, but Ryanair is doing unsafe things, and the industry knows this.
By the way, Yes, I am ex. Sabena, and currently out of a job. This does not mean that I am desperately enough to sell my body to MOL. I would rather say goodbye to aviation than succomb to this man wh makes slaves from pilots and cattle from pax.

They should take VEX and Easyjet as an example, now these are low cost carriers who actually do care about their employees and their passengers safety.



Shiek!
User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

You could always argue about college applications too, they charge about the same price, however to broke students!
Iain


User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

I am also broke man!!!...




Shiek!
User currently offlineToo low From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

A330

Illegal things ??? Then what is your local civil aviation safety unit (sorry, I don't know how you name it in Belgium) doing ?? And the British authorities ?? It's strange because they don't have the reputation to be obliging....
Please come on !!! If you have informations, what are you waiting for ??

Too Low - A PAX proud to be a part of the cattle (and if you are a pilot you should know that number of people onboard a plane is restricted. In this case Ryanair seats configuration is completely legal).


User currently offlineRootsgirl From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 530 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

A330- Just exactly how do you know Ryanair is doing illegal things. Your statement could be viewed as slanderous and defaming.

I have flown on Ryanair and I was impressed from check-in to the time I arrived at my destination and I work for another airline!

As much as everyone is entitled to an opinion; I am confident that your allegations are not true!


User currently offlineIncubus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1079 times:

I think I read somewhere that Ryanair pay's it's pilots more than just about any of it's European competitors. So I guess a £50 gamble on an extra £20K or whatever of salary may be worth it!

User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1051 times:

Hmmmm, A330 how many crashes did SN have (including the 737 that was lost?)

And how many has FR had?

I think we can all see which the safer airline is!  Insane

Furthermore, one of the airlines mentioned above lost money every year except two of its 87 year history. The other is currently worth more than most European airlines.

Guess which is which? Big grin Big grin Big grin


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

Ceilidh:

did you forget to mention that those SN aircraft were lost during its 78 year lifetime?

I don't know how old Ryanair is exactly, but I think they still have a very long way to go, if they ever make it that far in the first place of course...

Ivan

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User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

Apuneger - it's easy; do the sums. Divide the number of crashes SN had during its history by 78. That gives you the average years per crash.

Now divide that figure by 17 - the number of years Ryanair have been in business. That's how many crashes FR should have had if they were as safe as SN.

Given FR's profitability I suspect that they have a much brighter future ahead of then than SN - or its group companies - have! Big grin Big grin Big grin


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 990 times:

Ceilidh, do you know something about Sabena the rest of the world doesn't? Because in all threads about Sabena you seem to have alot of negative things to say about them. Did you apply for a job there and got turned down?



User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 970 times:

Ceilith is just a small child who wants to belong to the aviation world, but has only his lego planes to play with.
Ceilith, what do you know about the SN crashes then, you mention a B737 crash, let me assure you that no revenue flight on a SN B737 has ever crashed, in fact, the latest fatal revenue crash happened in 1961.
That is 40 years ago, lets see where Ryanair will be by that time...

As for illegal practices, What about a rapid decompression last spring and more than half of the oxygen masks did not work...

I have been on their flights once, and the safety demonstration did not comprise the necessary instruction about these oxigen masks. And yes that is illegal...



Shiek!
User currently offlineRootsgirl From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 530 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 951 times:

A330 - Just because aircraft have 02 masks installed throughout the cabin ( on aircraft that require them ) does not mean that in that in the event of a loss of cabin pressure the masks will deploy. There is no guarantee at all! This is a known aviation fact!

I have been a crewmember for almost 20 years and I know that no mater what the airline - or the aircraft - the masks MAY NOT ALWAYS DEPLOY. This is why flight attendants have access to MRT's ( Manual Release Tools). The MRT enables cabin crew to manually release the masks that may not have deployed by inserting the tip of thr tool into the panel where the masks are stowed.

I have documentation on this fact. As a matter of fact I have a good mind to post a thread and ask other members to share their stories about all the airlines that have experienced cabin pressure losses and masks did not deploy.

Also, EXACTLY what was negated in the o2 mask demo that you felt did not comply? If what you claim is true, then why did you not report it as a safety infraction to the Purser? I have flown Ryanair many times and I have never seen any lack of information re the masks. Also, the emergency features of each aircraft is printed on the safety features card that the crew asks you to rewiew!




User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 943 times:

A330 - who said anything about only considering crashes of aircraft undertaking revenue flights? Or are you now going to claim that FR don't do any crew training?  Insane

I've flown FR probably 50 times (being based at PIK they are my local airline) and on every flight the standard briefing has been given, including O2 masks.

If what you claim really happened - rather than just in your imagination - then why didn't you say something about it, as Rootsgirl rightly says? You seem to have a serious hangup about FR both here and on PPRuNe, my friend!


User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 932 times:

In the good ole USA, we call this a major thread drift. Meaning we have ventured far away from the subject at hand. That is having pilots pay a fee for applying to Ryanair. In the U.S. this is common practice. Just another way to exploit the piloting profession. Those who have a passion for flying commercial airliners must be willing to pay a price to have their application processed right? At SWA, you must obtain a 737 type rating prior to entering a ner hire class. That is in the ballpark of 7,000 dollars not including the 4 years of college and the 10-25 thousand in pilot ratings that get you up to the level in which a 737 type rating will actually do you some good.



Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
User currently offlineBoeingmechanic From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 911 times:

Ceillidh,

That Sabena B737 (OO-SDH) you mention had Boeing pilots on board who were training Cameroon pilots on B737.
Sabena received from Boeing a brand new B737 (OO-SBT). It flew with Sobelair until 1998.
Boeing took full responsibility for that crash.


User currently offlineAY-MD11 From Finland, joined Feb 2001, 472 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 913 times:

I was watching a tv news and there was Ryanairs CEO in the interview.He told that in Europe there are going to survive only the cheapfare carriers,the Star Alliance family and Oneworld family + family of companies around AirFrance.but in the end he told that independent companies like Finnair and Portugals TAP arent gonna make it!Is he on drugs?!Finnair is a part of the Oneworld family and it would survive without it too.btw..life must suck when being a pilot in Ryanair.discreace to the proffesion for sure.



regards,
AY-MD11


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