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Thomas Cook Belgium, New Charter-Company!  
User currently offlineCpt. Caveman From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Hello,

DNG, Wednesday, 12th of December 2001
(Belgian newspaper)

BRUSSELS

Touroperator Thomas Cook Belgium, announced today to start a new charter-company.
The new airline, will have 5 Airbusses A320.
Wenn everything goes by plan, Thomas Cook Belgium, will start next Easter 2002, flying it's own planes.
The main destinations will be the Mediterranean area, the islands Balearen (Mallorca, Menorca, Ibiza), the Canary Islands and North Africa! This is directly the start of the new Summer-season as well.

Thomas Cook, would have taken over the charter-company CityBird, but this deal turned out negative and CityBird went bankrupt.

Regards  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cpt. Caveman


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Does anybody know where those 5 A320 come from? I think Condor Berlin wants to get rid of some. That would make sense, as Condor is part of Thomas Cook.

User currently onlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1627 times:
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The A320's will come directly from JMC Airlines.

I was very sad with City Bird's disappearance... I wish them long life and the best of luck !! I hope many people from former CTB will be hired soon.

FB.



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User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

JMC will be using British flight deck crews but with Belgian cabin crew.

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Condor Berlin getting rid of 320s wouldn´t make much sense: if Condor Berlin were to cut capacity, they´d have to (technically) lay off staff which then would have to be hired by Condor - the problem is that Condor pays about 10% higher wages than Condor Berlin.
Daniel Smile


User currently onlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
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Still everything wrong poor Ceilidh. On the press meeting this morning in Zelzaat, Belgium, CEO of Thomas Cook Europe/Noth Africa precised that 60 Belgian pilots will be hired.

Poor frustrated guy Ceilidh. I have pity for your case.


FB.



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User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Dear Ceilidh,

I can confirm here that JMC will use Belgian cockpit crew as well. During the kick-off period they will use a mix of them: line-training captains and instructors will be Brittish and the other Belgian!!

At last some good news again...


User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Indeed Flying Belgian,

Again, a very well informed post of Ceilidh...

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy




User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Which livery will they have?

Same as JMC Airlines?

Benjamin


User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Like Benjamin, I am also wondering which livery they are going to fly. I think too they will fly the JMC green/blue MICA livery

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

I've seen a TC livery today on TV. A white A320 with blue engines (similar to Sabena blue) and THOMAS COOK in blue capital letters on the fuselage. At the front of the fuselage, in smaller and thinner blue letters "EXPLORER".

Ceilidh, give it up!



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User currently offlineA320-Addict From Belgium, joined Apr 2001, 250 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Indeed, the livery will be a white fuselage with blue engines and tail. Blue Big letters Thomas Cook.
similar to the ex-sabena livery and the current finnair one.

Every Aircraft will also carry a name.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

What names will they carry? Is EXPLORER possibly one of the names?


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User currently offlineGlider From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

I think the new livery is quite good, but I preferred Citybird...(sorry to disturb your enthousiasm, but I won't forget what they did to CTB).
I heard also that ex-CTB staff would work for them; any thoughts about the number?

Glider

P.S.: What's wrong with Ceilidh? Does he 'hate' Belgians???


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Glider,

60 pilots, 140 cabin crew and 50 ground personnel will be hired.




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User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Life will be rather interesting at JMC (aka 'Just Might Collapse') shortly - their pilots have rejected the company's 7.5% paycut. If they are going to take UK aircraft - without their crews - and move them over to Belgium, I think we could see some 'social action' over here!  Insane Big grin

User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

According to JMC crews over on PPRuNe, they have been told by their company that they can fly the A320s in Belgium; and furthermore JMC are offering to provide conversions for 757 rated people.

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4030 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

The five A320s will be transferred from the JMC fleet. Two additional Condor 757 s will be operated to cover seasonal demand during the summer. My understanding is that the main reason for setting up a Belgian airline with JMC aircraft rather than letting JMC do the job straightaway is for legal reasons. It seems as if a British airline can operate from Belgium within the EU without problems, but not to all non-EU destinations like Egypt etc.
How will Thomas Cook cover its long-haul needs ? CTB used to operate one MD11 and in the end one 767-300 almost completely for Neckermann Belgium.


User currently offlineBelugaBoy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1464 times:


Maybe they will work with Sobelair ( they have 767-300 ) for the long-haul routes.
If Sobelair still exits by that time or is not taken over by TUI !
Earlier ( before CityBird was founded ) they worked with Martinair from Amsterdam.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

I don't think TUI would mind some extra pax onboard Sobelair (if they keep the name and don't change it into TUI Belgium or Hapag Lloyd Belgium).

Regards
Laurens


User currently offlineCpt. Caveman From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

Hello,

Read also my new topic:
"230 New Jobs with Thomas Cook Airlines"
This is the next chapter, following on:
"Thomas Cook Belgium, New Charter-Company!"

Regards  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cpt. Caveman


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