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User currently offlineSptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

At about 9am this morning I saw an AA SP80 (undoubtedly on it's way to DFW since that's AA's only destination out of BUR) take off to the south as is normal out of BUR, but rather than turning to the west and circling around the Valley, which is normal, it turned east and headed out over LA, which is not normal. Any idea what's going on here?

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User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

There might be reverse traffic at LAX.

User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Sorry, I just got home and missed the AA Eastbound departure from BUR. This is not normal, even when LAX traffic is departing East, as commented above. I can't answer why but it isn't a normal SID.

Jeff

User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Sptv: AAL1188 BUR-ONT-DFW

User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

I lived in Studio City for 8 years and NEVER saw that happen...hmmm...
BTW, the best at BUR is when they're landing on 33, using visual approaches! The planes would turn in right over my house! Big grin


User currently offlineSptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Hey B737 --

where did you get info that AA1188 stops in ONT before continuing on to DFW? I only find that 1188 is non-stop BUR-DFW.



User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1346 times:

AA1188 is a scheduled nonstop flight. Today, probably because of winds or a high takeoff weight, they decided to do a quick fuel upload in Ontario which has been done before on days when Rwy33 is in use or during very hot temps.

Sptv: Not too long after you posted this I checked out http://www.FlightArrivals.com and looked at the departure list for BUR. American had landed and was just about to depart for DFW.

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1340 times:

Yeah, I've seen it fly over my house before. I've also seen planes fly ONT-BUR.


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User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

B737-112 is correct. I found the flight tracker was shown one stop at ONT. Maybe the reason high winds or over weight due short runway at BUR. Interesting...

Big777jet



User currently offlineN960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

Well, well, this looks like some of the BUR crowd...

Anyway, about your mention of how the plane didn't turn west and then north after departure but flew 'over the hill' and into the city, this is indeed rare. But something funny about that. From school in sordid North Hollywood I have a nice view of BUR departures. Last week, Friday I think I noticed a UA 733 [735?] seemed to keep heading south after departure I thought this was very odd, I've flown from BUR many times and never has the flight departed out over the city.

Oddly enough I was having dinner in Studio City that evening and I over heard the hostess saying 'this really noisy plane flew over my house this morning, and I live in Los Feliz, so there aren't a lot of planes flying over.'

Also, today, at 2:00pm or so this 752 came out of BUR, it was white and had a rather JAL style livery, I couldn't stare at it too much, I was walking across the street with this girl, and I couldn't make too many observations about the trees for too long, and well you know we can't sacfrice everything for aviation...

Jeffrey
Hollywood


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

Hey N960AS, that 752 belongs to a Geneva based company named Privatair (HB-IEE), there are many photos of this particular plane on this site. It was doing a nonstop to CYYR (Goose Bay, Canada).

User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1263 times:

I found here it's HB-IEE of Privatair 757. Is that you saw this plane out of BUR?


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Big777jet



User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Big777jet, that is definetly the one N960AS saw. I spent hours there that day and it departed right when he said he saw it, that was the only 757 departure until UPS took off for SDF at around 7:40PM.

Ryan

User currently offlineN960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

Thank you for averring that was the plane I saw B737-112, indeed it was. Too bad I couldn't stare at it any longer, it was a nice change from all the 737s.

There is a red and cream colored 752 that I've seen at BUR a lot. I heard it was owned by the guy who owns "Ralph's" supermarkets. Is that true? I'm more a Mayfair man myself.

On some other BUR stuff. I never realized how much UA cut down, I think they cut SF flights in half, from ten to five. Do they still use all four of their gates?

When I landed at BUR Saturday after Thanksgiving our flight got in at 1130pm or so, it was weird being there with everything closed.

Jeffrey


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

960, the 752 that you mentioned (N770BB) is owned by an investor that at one point did own Ralphs Grocery.


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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

BUR has what? 6300ft? How about SNA, at only 5700ft! I wonder how often, let's say, Continental takes a weight penalty with their 737-700, nonstop to EWR. Or even Aloha, with their nonstops to HNL and OGG? I believe SNA has the shortest air carrier runway in the country, with the longest range flights. AMAZING.

User currently offlineSptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1217 times:

Yes, they still use all 4 gates. I flew AS from BUR to PDX over Thanksgiving weekend on the 7a flight. The 737 to DEN was parked at gate four, and the other three gates were prepping for the SFO flights as usual. Seems like with the cutback in flights, they could easily cut back the number of gates they need.

steve


User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

BTW: The reason for HB-IEE @ BUR, was to take the cast of the movie "Oceans Eleven" to Ramstein AFB in Germany, to meet with the troops.

Jeff

User currently offlineBURules From United States of America, joined May 2000, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

Keep the BUR news coming! I miss it so.

In regards to departures, I can remember from the youth that there was always an Alaska flight in the late afternoon that did not do the post-takeoff turn to the west and north, but instead continued to the southeast over my house.

Was home for Thanksiving and was treated to a missed approach by an Alaska 737 on RWY 33. Was in the Frye's parking lot making my way into the store with a non-aviation inclined friend and said to him "What the hell does he think he's doing!?" Sure enough, gear up, nose up, looped around and got it done right about five minutes later.

The thing that puzzled me was the SW 73 that then took off to the West on 25 is it? Is that usually what happens when they're landing on 33? Oh well, I guess I'm out of touch . .


User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

It's very common for planes to depart on Rwy.26 when the winds are varying from the North @ BUR. The arrivals take place on Rwy. 33 and since the majority of gates parallel Rwy.26, it makes for a quick departure, rather than having to taxi across 15/33 and makes for a quicker takeoff in between Rwy. 33 arrivals.

Jeff

User currently offlineSptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

I've also taken off on 33 going north (does it have a different number then?), a few years ago on an AS MD80 -- had to stop in OAK to refuel on the way up to PDX. Also landed once coming back from LAS on SW on 33 going south! Kind of wild coming in over the mountains like that and then just being on the ground.

steve


User currently offlineN960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

Hey Sptv--
That happened to me once, over Thanksgiving, I don't remember what year, it was an Alaska MD80 flight from BUR to PDX and due to winds and a heavy payload we had to stop at OAK for fuel - maybe we were on the same flight.

I like sitting in the 'A' seats and taking off heading south [the normal way, sorry I can never remember the runway numbers at BUR, only LAX and JFK seem to stick in my head]. From that view I can almost see my neighborhood behind Universal studios, but the hills still block it kind of.

When I landed at BUR that night UA only had 3 737s at the gates - oh well. Why didn't they replace the 722 DEN flight with an A319/20? What's with those Mesa CRJs? HP really bailed. Weren't we gonna have Skywest return? Or was I dreaming?

J


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

HP is going to slowly re-introduce the 733 and 319/320's into BUR, the CRJ's are temporary due to load factors and money issues. We should see no more Mesa service as of February.

Skywest/Delta Connection was going to introduce new CRJ service to SLC (I believe Nov 1), obviously for the airlines that ended up being a bad time to expand and plans were understandably abandoned.

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