Sptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1087 times:
At about 9am this morning I saw an AA SP80 (undoubtedly on it's way to DFW since that's AA's only destination out of BUR) take off to the south as is normal out of BUR, but rather than turning to the west and circling around the Valley, which is normal, it turned east and headed out over LA, which is not normal. Any idea what's going on here?
B737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 880 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 875 times:
AA1188 is a scheduled nonstop flight. Today, probably because of winds or a high takeoff weight, they decided to do a quick fuel upload in Ontario which has been done before on days when Rwy33 is in use or during very hot temps.
Sptv: Not too long after you posted this I checked out http://www.FlightArrivals.com and looked at the departure list for BUR. American had landed and was just about to depart for DFW.
N960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 833 times:
Well, well, this looks like some of the BUR crowd...
Anyway, about your mention of how the plane didn't turn west and then north after departure but flew 'over the hill' and into the city, this is indeed rare. But something funny about that. From school in sordid North Hollywood I have a nice view of BUR departures. Last week, Friday I think I noticed a UA 733 [735?] seemed to keep heading south after departure I thought this was very odd, I've flown from BUR many times and never has the flight departed out over the city.
Oddly enough I was having dinner in Studio City that evening and I over heard the hostess saying 'this really noisy plane flew over my house this morning, and I live in Los Feliz, so there aren't a lot of planes flying over.'
Also, today, at 2:00pm or so this 752 came out of BUR, it was white and had a rather JAL style livery, I couldn't stare at it too much, I was walking across the street with this girl, and I couldn't make too many observations about the trees for too long, and well you know we can't sacfrice everything for aviation...
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1366 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 768 times:
BUR has what? 6300ft? How about SNA, at only 5700ft! I wonder how often, let's say, Continental takes a weight penalty with their 737-700, nonstop to EWR. Or even Aloha, with their nonstops to HNL and OGG? I believe SNA has the shortest air carrier runway in the country, with the longest range flights. AMAZING.
Sptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 746 times:
Yes, they still use all 4 gates. I flew AS from BUR to PDX over Thanksgiving weekend on the 7a flight. The 737 to DEN was parked at gate four, and the other three gates were prepping for the SFO flights as usual. Seems like with the cutback in flights, they could easily cut back the number of gates they need.
BURules From United States of America, joined May 2000, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 728 times:
Keep the BUR news coming! I miss it so.
In regards to departures, I can remember from the youth that there was always an Alaska flight in the late afternoon that did not do the post-takeoff turn to the west and north, but instead continued to the southeast over my house.
Was home for Thanksiving and was treated to a missed approach by an Alaska 737 on RWY 33. Was in the Frye's parking lot making my way into the store with a non-aviation inclined friend and said to him "What the hell does he think he's doing!?" Sure enough, gear up, nose up, looped around and got it done right about five minutes later.
The thing that puzzled me was the SW 73 that then took off to the West on 25 is it? Is that usually what happens when they're landing on 33? Oh well, I guess I'm out of touch . .
Jabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 726 times:
It's very common for planes to depart on Rwy.26 when the winds are varying from the North @ BUR. The arrivals take place on Rwy. 33 and since the majority of gates parallel Rwy.26, it makes for a quick departure, rather than having to taxi across 15/33 and makes for a quicker takeoff in between Rwy. 33 arrivals.
Sptv From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 717 times:
I've also taken off on 33 going north (does it have a different number then?), a few years ago on an AS MD80 -- had to stop in OAK to refuel on the way up to PDX. Also landed once coming back from LAS on SW on 33 going south! Kind of wild coming in over the mountains like that and then just being on the ground.
N960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 697 times:
That happened to me once, over Thanksgiving, I don't remember what year, it was an Alaska MD80 flight from BUR to PDX and due to winds and a heavy payload we had to stop at OAK for fuel - maybe we were on the same flight.
I like sitting in the 'A' seats and taking off heading south [the normal way, sorry I can never remember the runway numbers at BUR, only LAX and JFK seem to stick in my head]. From that view I can almost see my neighborhood behind Universal studios, but the hills still block it kind of.
When I landed at BUR that night UA only had 3 737s at the gates - oh well. Why didn't they replace the 722 DEN flight with an A319/20? What's with those Mesa CRJs? HP really bailed. Weren't we gonna have Skywest return? Or was I dreaming?