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User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

I think it would be the 737-400, adequate range with good pax. capacity (and by know, cheap to buy).

What do you think?


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User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Used A320's


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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

hmm...

National and the 757-200
Reno and the MD-80/90
Western Pacific and the 737-300 and ordered -700
Airtran and the DC-9/717/737
SW with the 737 family
ATA with the 727/ L1011
Air Cairo with the TU-214
Sun Country with the 727
JetBlue with the A320
PanAm with the 727
Vanguard with the 737-300 then -200 then the MD-80s

Sooooo many choices..so many different missions.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5231 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

short-med haul B717
med+ haul 737-700



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User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

penguinFlies,

Im not too sure your up to speed with ATA's fleet. 737-800's and 757-300's have been added to the fleet while the L1011 and the 727's are slowly being retired.The 727 will stick around a bit longer as ATA just picked up a LARGE portion of Sun Country's flying.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

If I was to start an airline, say running between ANC and SEA 1250 miles. I think I would initally go with the MD-80.

THe reasons are lower initial cost due to it being out of production. Large supply due to large fleet and large number or available airframes to scrap. That large number of airframes means that there should be a large fleet to choose from with also will hold down the price of the aircraft. It is fairly fuel efficent, and it is a reliable design.




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User currently offlineGaruda From Indonesia, joined Nov 2000, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

I think for short to medium haul routes, the next generation of RJs will do the job.....

I'm referring to Fairchild-Dornier 728/928 JET and ERJ 170/190......

JA


User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7303 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

737-300 -700 -800
A3-- 20 19

Looking at the profitable low cost carriers globally, they are all based around these aircraft

HP
GO
EZY
FR
Virgin Blue
Jet Blue



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User currently offlineVS744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Easyjet and Ryanair have proved the 737 business model works best in the UK market.

User currently offlineLH744 From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

B737 - used by almost all successfull low-cost carriers!

User currently offlineMiller22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

The next southwest will be with CRJ 50-70's. Range, low cost, speed and low break-even load factors.

User currently offlineSkymileman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

One problem though, Boeing discontinued making that. Now they only make the 737-600/-700/-800/-900.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

The reason the 737 classics are popular with low cost carriers is that they are cheap to buy second hand and their operating costs are good.I expect to see more A32X being used by low cost carriers as they age.

User currently offlineMightyFalcon From Oman, joined Jun 2001, 384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

I'd say second hand B737-300/-400/-500 (good availability and price) or B737-600/-700/-800 if a longer ranger is needed.

Anyway, a single aircraft type (with different series)would be what's best to keep operating cost as low as possible. The best example I have in mind would be Southwest.

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User currently offlineCroFlight From Croatia, joined Jul 2001, 275 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

MD-80 family, definitely the best solution for low-cost flying. One of the advatages which makes it cheap is also cheaper ground service (stairs) and shorter turnover than 737.

CroFlight


User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Not the 737-400. It would put you above 150 pax, which means 4 flight attendants. I'd say either a 717 with 99 seats or a 737-300/737-700. If you run a fairly high capacity route, then a 757.

User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

The reason the 737 classics are popular with low cost carriers is that they are cheap to buy second hand and their operating costs are good.I expect to see more A32X being used by low cost carriers as they age.

Also, 737's (even NG's) are lower to the ground and have a lot fewer bells and whistles which means quicker turnarounds and faster aircraft servicing.

Seems like Easy and Ryan have gone with the 737NG, as have the majority of European low-fare carriers. My guess is that Airbus hasn't shown a lot of interest in attracting the low-fare boys.


User currently offlineIndianGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1275 times:

Availability of affordable eqpt on lease is also a very important issue.

If i were to think of launching a carrier today, it would most certainly have to be leased.

So in that sense, even though the A32X family is my personal favorite, the 737-400's come out tops. Since they are cheap to lease, operate and maintain.

The NG 737s have better operating economics, but the recurring lease costs are going to be higher.


User currently offlineCobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

No doubt guys
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