Kdca4life From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3207 times:
Ok, what is the difference between AirTran Airways and American Trans Air? I know there is one, but I can't for the life of me figure which is which, and who flies what where. I know AirTran has a base here at BWI (I think?). But other than that, can't tell the diff.
Which one goes by "ATA?" And, which owns the trademark "Valuejet?" I remember one of them had an a/c make an emergency landing on some island in the atlantic. I also know that one of them flys a boatload of 717's as well.
Whenever one mentions ATA, AirTran, American Trans Air, etc. I have no clue what they are talking about. LoL. Am I the only one unable to keep these guys straight?
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
ATA = American Trans Air. Newest plane is the 737-800 with winglets! They are a little larger than Air Tran, also known as the former Valujet. Their callsign is/was Critter. Air Tran's newest jet is the 717. Currently they have the largest fleet of them. Air Tran has a simple scheme on their fleet, while ATA has a more colorful scheme, with palm trees painted on the tails, making it one of the more easily recognizable carriers there is. Hope this helps. Regards.
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Jj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3137 times:
Meechy36, you are right. The airline which had the fuel problem, and made the landing withowt the engines running at Azores, portugal, was Air Transa, which is a canadian operator.
AirTran was formed after Valujet ceased operations, in great measure, due to a crash of one of it's dc9's in the Everglades, after takeoff from miami, if i remember correctly.
American Trans Air is a charter airline, which also used to have regular services, one that I can remember now is New York-Belfast-Riga (Latvia), which was mainly operated because the owner was a son of two Latvian inmigrants.
AmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3102 times:
Actually, there were Valujet and AirTran. Valujet was based (headquartered) in ATL. AirTran was based (Headquarter) in Orlando. After the Valujet crash, and Valujet was trying to get back on their feet but they were having imagine problem. So Valujet brought out AirTran (who was having fiancial problem at that time and flying mostly 737s I think). After buying out AirTrans, it was decided to be AirTran and retired the "Valujet" brand name. Also, they moved headquarter to Orlando but keep the hub in Atlanta.
After the merge (or buy out), they retired the 737s.
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
American Trans Air or ATA started out as a charter carrier in 1973. They are headquartered in Indianapolis and have their major hub at Chicago-Midway. Their fleet includes 737-800's, 757-200/300, L1011, and a few remaining 727's (about 3-4 left but they'll be gone soon.) They fly a mix of charters and scheduled ops...about 55% sked, 45% charter. Most of the sked ops. are flown out of MDW to major US destinations and they will be adding destinations in Mexico and the Carribean in 2002. They also fly sked and charters for Pleasant Hawaii Vacations to (you guessed it) Hawaii. They are the 11th largest US airline and obtained major airline status (revenues upward of $1 billion a year) in the year 2000. Their radio callsign is AmTran.
AirTran originally started out as a low-fare carrier based in Orlando using 737-200's. ValuJet began as a low-fare airline based in ATL flying DC-9's. After the crash of Flight 592 and the subsequent FAA grounding, ValuJet had a serious image problem. They merged with AirTran and meshed both airline's operations. They are headquartered in Orlando although they retained the VJ hub in ATL. They also have "focus cities" in PIT and BWI. They fly 717-200's and DC-9-32's. The last of the 737-200s inherited from the original AirTran were retired shortly after 9/11. Their radio callsign is Citrus.
AirTransat (a shortened version of Air TransAtlantic) is a Canadian charter operator although they have scheduled service as well. They have a fleet consisting of 757's, L1011's, A330's and A310's. I'm not too familiar with much of their operation. They did have that incident with the A330 running out of fuel over the Atlantic and making a deadstick landing in the Azores.
Jean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2969 times:
Actually, Air Transat is headquartered in Quebec. They are a very québecois company with deep ties to the PQ government, which is why I don't like that. However, they certainly do have mor flights out of YYZ, because that's where all the money is!