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User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1162 times:

With all the talk of recent failed Canadian airlines, one that isn't mentioned is Greyhound Air. Now I don't know much about this airline, so could u guys just put my mind at ease. What planes did they fly? What destinations did they serve? and Why did they go under? I know this is fairly recent, but help here would be appreciated. All I can remember is that they had to operate under Kelowna Flightcraft because they couldn't get their own safety certificate. Also, I probably believe they flew 727's cause that just seems logical. Thanks a lot guys.

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User currently offlineWestjet_737 From Japan, joined Nov 1999, 869 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

Yep they flew all 727-200's.


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User currently offlineAirCanadaMan From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

They operated 727-200's in the Western Triangle, and to some Prarie Destinations, like YWG.

Thats all I remeber, although I do remember watching their 722's pulling into the gates at YEG from the Ac Maple Leaf lounge.

That was in September of 1997.


User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

1996-1997 Greyhound Air Calgary Formed by Greyhound Lines of Canada. Ceased ops when parent company was acquired by Laidlaw Inc.


Registration Aircraft Type c/n Origin Fate Remarks
C-GIKF B.727-227 20772 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft
C-GJKF B.727-227 21042 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft no titles
C-GKKF B.727-227 21043 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft
C-GLKF B.727-227 21118 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft no titles
C-GMKF B.727-227 21119 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft no titles
C-GNKF B.727-227 20839 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft
C-GOKF B.727-214 20162 lsf Kelowna Flightcraft



User currently offlineAirCanadaMan From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

I stand corrected, Toronto as well.

Sorry for that.


User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

They also served YHM to YWG 2 flights a day and they had some of their best passenger numbers out of here. They never really we broke laidlaw just bought greyhound and never wanted an airline.


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User currently offlineYqfca From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

Greyhound did not operate a single 727. Kelowna Flightcraft operated the 727s in Greyhound Air colours but NOT titles since it was actually Kelowna Flight Craft. Greyhound never had an airline operating certificate. Even their callsign was "Flightcraft". Greyhound was simply Kelowna Flightcrafts booking agent.
Hope this answers your question.


User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

They also served Ottawa. (YOW)

User currently offlineSuperdawg From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 998 times:

They may have never been broke, but it has been said that they never ran in the black and were consistently losing money.

User currently offlineAC183 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 975 times:

Greyhound was a partnership between Kelowna Flighcraft (better known as the freight contractor for Purolator Courier) and Greyhound Lines of Canada. Greyhound did the marketing, and KF ran the flight operations. They had some problems originally starting up because of foreign ownership rules and also operating certificates (for Flightcraft to operated schedule passenger flights), but did get started up in '96 after about 3 months of delays. They flew transcontinental routes to destinations such as Vancouver, Kelowna, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Hamilton and Toronto. Service was typical low-fare, seating was Southwest-style boarding. Initially they had direct ticket sales only, but added travel agent sales shortly after startup. They also had a rather good advertising campaign.

In winter '97 they lost money, but loads were good in summer '97 and it appeared as though they were starting to crack the market. At that point, however, the parent company of Greyhound Canada was subject to a takeover bid by Laidlaw, which was primarily interested in the bus lines. I think it can be quite fairly argued that Laidlaw never planned to let the airline survive. Laidlaw didn't particularly want an airline for one thing, and wasn't particularly fond of the idea of running losses through winter '98. Although I've heard that the airline was fairly profitable summer '97 (in Hamilton, for example, load factors were >90%), Laidlaw wasn't interested and it was just shut down at the end of September '97 with no attempt was made to sell the business. Rather a shame, really, as I think the concept was pretty good.


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User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 953 times:

Thanks a lot guys, cleared up things in my mind. By the sounds of things, if the ownership group persisted, we possibly could still have a good little airline.

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