Spyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1122 times:
With all the talk of recent failed Canadian airlines, one that isn't mentioned is Greyhound Air. Now I don't know much about this airline, so could u guys just put my mind at ease. What planes did they fly? What destinations did they serve? and Why did they go under? I know this is fairly recent, but help here would be appreciated. All I can remember is that they had to operate under Kelowna Flightcraft because they couldn't get their own safety certificate. Also, I probably believe they flew 727's cause that just seems logical. Thanks a lot guys.
Yqfca From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1003 times:
Greyhound did not operate a single 727. Kelowna Flightcraft operated the 727s in Greyhound Air colours but NOT titles since it was actually Kelowna Flight Craft. Greyhound never had an airline operating certificate. Even their callsign was "Flightcraft". Greyhound was simply Kelowna Flightcrafts booking agent.
Hope this answers your question.
AC183 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 935 times:
Greyhound was a partnership between Kelowna Flighcraft (better known as the freight contractor for Purolator Courier) and Greyhound Lines of Canada. Greyhound did the marketing, and KF ran the flight operations. They had some problems originally starting up because of foreign ownership rules and also operating certificates (for Flightcraft to operated schedule passenger flights), but did get started up in '96 after about 3 months of delays. They flew transcontinental routes to destinations such as Vancouver, Kelowna, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Hamilton and Toronto. Service was typical low-fare, seating was Southwest-style boarding. Initially they had direct ticket sales only, but added travel agent sales shortly after startup. They also had a rather good advertising campaign.
In winter '97 they lost money, but loads were good in summer '97 and it appeared as though they were starting to crack the market. At that point, however, the parent company of Greyhound Canada was subject to a takeover bid by Laidlaw, which was primarily interested in the bus lines. I think it can be quite fairly argued that Laidlaw never planned to let the airline survive. Laidlaw didn't particularly want an airline for one thing, and wasn't particularly fond of the idea of running losses through winter '98. Although I've heard that the airline was fairly profitable summer '97 (in Hamilton, for example, load factors were >90%), Laidlaw wasn't interested and it was just shut down at the end of September '97 with no attempt was made to sell the business. Rather a shame, really, as I think the concept was pretty good.