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Iraqi Airways To Rio De Janiero...  
User currently offlineTwa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

I found this pic of a 747-200 at Rio de Janiero. Now I am just wondering, before the UN sanctions... how many people would need to fly between Baghdad and Rio de Janiero??? Anyone know any info about this? and did they serve and destonations in North America, or other far off places that you wouldn't imagine people from Baghdad would go to?

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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

They travelled to the carnival parties.
In there own country their women have to wear a veil.
In Brasil these guys got so horny that they had problems to keep themselves under controll!


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

I wouldn't be surprised if this were a VIP or Government flight...Iraq was flush with pre-embargo petrocash in 1982 and there were probably more than a few honchos with the dough to hire a 747 to zip them to exotic Rio.

Another posibility ...apparently there is a large Middle Eastern expatriate community in the area where Brazil and two other countries meet in the southern Amazon basin.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Yes, that`s why they travelled to GIG. Your post have explain it on a fantastic and funny way. Big grin Big grin Big grin

Patrick


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Seriously, I know that Brazil sold a lot of military equipement to Iraq. So my guess is that it was mainly
for bringing hardware to Iraq, not carry passengers.


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Yes there is a large expat Arab community in Brazil mostly Lebanese, MEA and Royal Air Maroc also used to fly to the country Smile


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User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

SQ325. Women to not need to wear a veil in Iraq. Iraq is not an islamic extremist country merely a dictatorship.

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Parra is correct. Iraq unlike other middle eastern nations is officially a secular country. Many women often wear western clothing.

Thomas



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User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

In Asia, they also served NRT at least, too.

User currently offlinePacificflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

They used to serve bangkok also and many destionations in Europe. Ryu2 is right, they did served Tokyo NRT.

User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

The reason why this route was opened was because there was a large Brazilian expat population in Baghdad (when Baghdad has an amazing night life), trade was flourishing between the two countries and Iraqi's were travelling abroad. Just for the record, Iraq has a secular government. Islam was never an issue in Iraq, most people were ok with whatever and everyone used to drink & have fun but, thanks to the war and the sanctions, Islamic extremism is on the rise in Iraq...

BTW: Iraqi women are powerful women, the majority don't cover themselves...



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Weren't the Iraqi 742's the 'C' version? IE, convertable to cargo. Could these flights have been arms deliveries?

I know that Chile sold arms to Iraq in the late 70s/early 80s...the Iraqi 742C's were frequent visitors to Santiago in cargo config.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Marco is right, there were many Brazilians working on contract in Iraq. Iraqi Airways normally flew with Boeing 707 with a stop in Lisbon.

User currently offlineYak42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

Somebody I know had a very bad experience with Iraqi Airways, just before the Sadam government went mad. She was living with her husband in Qatar at the time and was visiting her family back in Scotland. The best deal seemed to be with Iraqi who gave her overnight stays at a posh hotel in Bagadad on both the outward and inward journeys. But when she got to the hotel on the outward journey, they said the voucher was invalid so she spent the night sitting in the airport. Iraqi Airways in London dismissed her complaint and would not refund the ticket. She had to shell out on a BA single for the return. What b**t***s!

User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

oil?


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User currently offlineARN From Sweden, joined Feb 2001, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

The Iraqui Airways flight to Rio de Janeiro was routed Baghdad - Amman - Lisbon - Rio with 747-equipment as stated above, This was a once weekly flight in the late 70s early 80s. At the same time Iraqui had a flight to Barbados also routed via Lisbon. This was with 707s as aircraft in use. Both flights were scheduled flights. I have a ABC Worlwide flight schedule from 1979 as my source. I could be pursued to sell it - but it will cost you.

User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 671 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

It's not Rio de Janiero, but Rio de Janeiro!!!!

And this happened many years ago, so there is no need to get surprised about it!!!

Neo


User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1047 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

A friend of mine took this flight in the early '80s. He thought it would be 'cool' to ride an exotic carrier. His carry-on always contained a camera and they made him hand it over for 'safekeeping' as he boarded the aircraft. He never saw it again. The airline personnel were mystified as to what happened to it and unwilling to help. He said the meal was atrocious as well.

User currently offlineKONSTANTINOS From Greece, joined Jun 2001, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Some time ago, the US also sold weapons to Iraq, and so did Europe and Russia and South Africa and and and...

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Dear Yak42!
The Saddam Hussein al-Tikrit regime have always been
mad, since they took over big time 1979, there´s either
been war or preparation for war until UN crushed them
in 1991. The Iraqis where buying arms big time from Brazil, the Astro missle launch system which works like
a cluster bomb, 2 different versions of armed personell
truck was among the items they bought from Brazil.


User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

Nice livery, Shame it has dissapeared!!

Cheers
mikey


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25008 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2192 times:
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G'day, AirNewZealand:

Never judge a plane by its livery! Some years ago, I flew with Iraqi Airways Bangkok to Baghdad. It was supposed to be a non-stop.

Fairly empty out of Bangkok, we stopped in Bombay and picked up a lot of (very poor) "guest workers" bound for Baghdad. Stopped again in Dubai and picked up some more. Passengers were actually sitting in the aisles!

Landing at Baghdad was fun. It was dawn, so many of the guest workers wanted to pray to Mecca - despite the cabin staff telling them that they had dispensation while they were flying.

We were banking and turning so much, no one could work out in which direction they should pray. It was fairly chaotic, but at least it wasn't dull.

Hooroo

mariner



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User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

So were glad there gone!! LOL!!

Mikey


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Dear Mariner! This must have been in the 1980ies?

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25008 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2123 times:
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Hey, Alessandro - yes, 1981, I think.

As an add-on, if the flight was "interesting", the arrival at Baghdad was worse. I was the only westerner on the flight, and customs and immigration decided to have some fun with me. 4 hours at Baghdad airport before they let me in (including a FULL body search).

Then, suddenly, it all stopped, they started smiling, shook my hand and wished me "welcome to Baghdad" as if nothing unusual had happened.

Cheers

mariner



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25 Alessandro : Dear Mariner! I know the feeling, been fully searched when I been leaving Ben Gurion, took a while...
26 Planeguy : Back in the day, Iraq and Brazil were major trade partners. The Brazilians needed oil and the Iraqis wanted Brazilian arms. Judging from the results o
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