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Virgn Atlantic And The A340-600 Facts PLEASE.  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Can anyone shed some light on the current situation between Virgin and Airbus over the A340-600? Has deliveries been delayed? Have they been cancelled? Where does Boeing play in this, and are they interested in the 777?


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

According to my newswires, the deliveries of the Airbus A340-600 Celestar aircraft from Airbus to Virgin Atlantic are unchanged.

Boeing has no place in this order

However, Boeing have been tempting Virgin with the 773ER as a replacement for the 747-400 /-200.




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User currently offlineBoeingnut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Only SIA calls their 340s Celestars.



User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Sorry! Thanks Boeingnut


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

Just out of curiosity (we DO see them every now and then here at CPH), why do they call them the Celestar?

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

I know you won't like this, cos i don't have a source (I think it was a Virgin press release in October), but the initial deliveries of Virgin's A346s are secure. The later deliveries are under doubt.

Boeing had been trying to get the 773/773ER sold to both BA and Virgin, with quite a bit of luck before sept 11th. Now....


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Here is a picture of the A340-600 that is to be delivered to Virgin Atlantic next year.


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Tony Silgrim



User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

On Friday August 1st, Airbus Industrie in a statement revealed Virgin Atlantic Airways and Air Canada are to become launch customers for its new A340-versions. Airbus says that Virgin has decided to acquire 16 A340-600, thereby becoming launch customer for the stretched A340 to be powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 500 engines. Commercial launch of the -600 that will accomodate up to 375 passengers took place in June during the Le Bourget airshow. Virgin will be the first operator to take delivery of the new aircraft from 2002. Said Richard Branson, Virgin chairman, commented: "Boeing make excellent aircraft, but it is in the interest of both the aircraft industry and the consumer, for them to have a strong competitor. It is therefore healthy to see a European manufacturer and a British engine maker giving their American counterparts a serious run for their money. Airbus and Rolls Royce are building the very best there is."
Air Canada also wants to acquire the A340-600, as well as the long-range version -500 that in a standard three class layout will carry 313 passengers 8300 nm (15400 km). In a letter of intent, the airline has set a March 1998 decision date for five of the new airplanes and ten options for first delivery in 2002. Details of the possible order split were not disclosed. Air Canada also announced it had signed a letter of intent to acquire five A330-300s and three A340-300s with options for 20 more aircraft.


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

I wish that Airbus would offer an American made P&W 4000 series engine as an option on the A340-500/600 for airlines who don't want to go for the GE90 777-200LR & 300ER models.

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

I actually just read in Flight International that Virgin has pretty much delayed the launch of the plane for up to a year, leaving Airbus scrambling for a new launcher of the plane. Airbus is doing everything to get VS to not delay, but Virgin seems to not want to begin flying it just yet.

You can check out the magazine if you want, because I was only able to glance over it, but this is what I was able to deduce from the article.

LH423



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

TEDSKI, make us airlines ordering the A340 and i'm sure airbus will think about american engines for them  Smile

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

I would think that Virgin would be trying to delay the entry of the A340-600 as much as possible. Heck, they are in the process of retiring their 747-200s because their capacity is not needed.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

ILS, a (UNCREDITED) 4-year old press release does not shed much light on VS' current difficulties!

IF VS were not to take their 346's, who would become the first customer? AC?



Next flight.... who knows.
User currently offlineDan330 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Virgin interested in the 777?

That would be good after Richard's "4 engines are better than 2" shot at BA last week.

Can't see it happening myself, I think the 340's will be delivered pretty much on time.


User currently offlineVgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

I think the A346's will be delivered on time. You can't deny that VS is having financial problems at this time, but so are a lot of airlines. VS has come out of worse situations in the past.


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User currently offlineThe Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

If VS end up delaying the launch of the aircraft, who will be the launch customer? CX?

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