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Chicago Express-ATA Connection Expantion  
User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

I have hear a rumor that Chicago Express-ATA Connection is looking to open 4-5 new cities mainly west of Chicago this spring. Do they have the aircraft to do this type of expantion or will they be adding more Saabs to their fleet and what cities are they looking at?


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
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User currently offlineRjx From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

I wonder if one of those citys will be TVC. They use to fly in thier with thier J31's. It would be nice to be albe to go through MDW.

User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

TVC  Sad  Sad  Sad

It makes me think of Boeing757fan who is no longer with us. Hopefully he is reading this.


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Wish they would dump those lousy Saabs and get some ATRs or Dash8s, 30 seaters. What is the Saab 18 seats?

User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

The Saabs seat 33 or 34 depending on config. 18 seats? Heck a J31 can seat up to 19.

User currently offlineJonnyGT From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Whoa whoa whoa, ILS, what happened to Boeing757Fan? Wasn't he the guy from Michigan?

User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Yeah he got booted.

User currently offlineBombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

What did he do to get booted?


User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

I have heard these rumors as well. As far as I know, the cities mentioned were Kansas City, Omaha, Louisville, and Columbus. Makes sense, all are large cities with no current ATA service of any kind.

User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

I don't know I posted something in non av that got 50+ replies then was deleted.

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1394 times:
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Perhaps ATA Connection should pick up some RJs... but I imagine there's lots of props available on the second-hand market.

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1378 times:


I agree with Lindy field. Chicago Express should pick up some RJ's to do medium-size cities that ATA does not serve. Even though there is a huge backlog of orders for RJ's, haven't some regionals been deferring their orders?

Anyway, the Saab 340 is a fine a/c. It seats 33 in the Chicago Express config. However if they're going to open new cities with those aircraft, they're probably not going to be very large cities, so forget OMA, MCI, and CMH. Those fall under the RJ category.

Boeing757Fan got booted? Gee, what a shame. Not.



User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

What Chicago Express needs to do is start flying to some of the cities in Illinois....like Peoria, Moline/Quad Cities, Rockford and maybe Bloomington or Chanpaign/Urbana. Those citys have a lot of traffic to be had and some are large college towns...The could maybe try going to Cedar Rapids and or Waterloo....there are many shorter haul routes that could use an alternat to over crowded Ohare...Lets not forget that Sioux City has no direct air link to Chicago...only to St. Louis and Minneapolis.....so there are many possibilities...Yes and Traverse city would be good!!!

Access-Air



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User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1360 times:


Well if they were to keep the Saab's and expand they could do:

Bloomington
Champaign
Carbondale (no air service between Southern Illinois and Chicago)
Peoria
Moline
TVC (why not?)
Toledo
Evansville, IN

Anything farther than that should be done with RJ's I think.


User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

It would be nice to see Chicago Express with RJs to open up more of the midwest market. As for the new cities I have heard they will be farther west than the rockies.


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

Farther west of the Rockies with Saabs out of MDW? That would be cozy.



User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that ATA serves any airport in Il. other than MDW. One or more destinations should be towns in Il with high-fare service to get some more political power. After that, serve the larger towns such as CMH or OMA.

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Actually they recently started Connection service to Springfield, IL which is the state capitol.



User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

They're looking at Toldeo, Green Bay, Cedar Rapids.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Also talking to Flint, Lansing, Evansville, and Rochester MN..

-nate


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

The only problem with using RJ's is that they tend to high-seat-mile costs. ATA is a low-fare carrier, and as far as I know, RJ's don't have low-enough seat-mile costs to be economical for a low-fare carrier.

ATA will probably have to stick to turboprops if it wants to do regional services and keep seat-mile costs low. The Saab isn't a bad plane as far as turboprops go, and they could get the Saab 2000 for a 50-seater. They'd probably not want to fly turboprops any further than say Nebraska to the west, Tennessee to the south, and Pennsylvania or Upstate NY to the east.

Jim



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User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

I hope they look at CLE.

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