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America West A Low Fare Carrier?!?!  
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

I keep hearing and seeing that AWA is a low fare airline. Well i havent seen any low fares with them, And as far as I thought i knew was that they were an airline that offered in Flight meals and other luxury accomodations to be a low fare carrier and if so then how do they do it? someone please explain! thanks

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User currently offlineBaxter From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

AWA is often confused as a low fare carrier because they provide the same no-frills service.

However, their fares are far from low as are their cost structures. The worst of both worlds.


User currently offlineEc From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

HP is a low/medium fare carrier with the additional perks of first class seating and meals on the long haul flights. Since WN is their main competition in most markets their fares tend to match or sometimes beat WN. Outside of these markets their prices are usually a bit cheaper than the likes of UAL,AMR etc...I don't know what Baxter is talking about, but HP's cost structure is one of the industrys lowest. americawest.com or orbitz.com is usually what I use. Basically a airline with a bad rep that is struggling to shake a bad public perception despite the fact their performance numbers have been in line or better than the industry the past 8-12 months.

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1228 times:


America West was created as a low/medium fare airline with full-service amenities such as assigned seating, first class, and meal service on longer haul flights (instituted not too long ago). As mentioned, they compete in many markets with Southwest so their fares tend to be low. However in markets where Southwest isn't a factor their fares tend to be higher but yet lower than many other major airlines. Also their cost structure is realtively low for that of a major carrier.


User currently offlineCap'n Dan From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1222 times:

Am I just imagining things or did HP experiment with transpacific service a while back?

User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

Yes, they flew into Japan I believe from HNL and PHX?


Eric




User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1194 times:


The flew to HNL and Nagoya, Japan with ex-KLM 747-100's. The service was short-lived.



User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

Where HP competes with WN out of LAS and PHX, they will match or undercut the fare. However, they are far from being lowfare if you try to buy a ticket from say BOS, JFK, PHL, ORD,IND, ATL etc. to anywhere on the west coast. Sure, there are fare sales and exceptions to all rules, but, on the whole just like the rest of the majors, when those seats sell out, they will charge you an arm and a leg. Their advertising at times is very misleading. Yes, they do have some of the lowest costs in the industry, but they are by far not a low fare airline.

User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

CActusa319:

I believe they were 747-200s



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3802 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

Based on my empirical findings, the reply of Deltaflyertoo most accurately answers the question raised in the starter thread of this topic.

Having checked America West fares for numerous cities from PHX in the Sabre system, here's my answer to this topic's question:

America West is a low fare airline only where they are compelled to be by competition from Southwest. Their fares in other markets are every bit as outrageous and opportunistic as their Cartel "competitors" will allow.





User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7760 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1097 times:

Tango-Bravo said:

"America West is a low fare airline only where they are compelled to be by competition from Southwest. Their fares in other markets are every bit as outrageous and opportunistic as their Cartel "competitors" will allow. "

Isn't that what all airlines do against Southwest????



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User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

It's about time foreign airlines were allowed to operate US domestic routes. Imagine what the big 4 would do if Virgin, Ryanair and Easyjet could operate US routes. They'd be fu**ed!

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Depending on where I am going, I fly on them. They operate the A320 series, which is a major cost saver, but the thing that I like is the fact they they DO have first class.

Also, when it does come to competing directly with southwest, HP has flights that intertwine with WN, so that they both get a fair share of customers, or even more with the bigger aircraft, and smaller aircraft during the less demanding times of day.

When you think of flying to a particular destination, particularly if it is a hub, you would fly in on the dominant carrier in that hub. America west flies into many of the place that the big guys do, charge less, and make one less stop - if they're going to PHX, which is a major vacation spot in the spring and fall. I have flown interline on HP and DL, on a flight to ORF, via ATL, and found it very pleasing flying on HP to ATL, since the planes arent jam packed, are bigger, and depending on the model, faster.

America west also dominates Arizona, so depending on where you go in AZ, HP, and its afilliate Mesa, will shuttle you around AZ.

I have flown on many carriers in my career as a passenger, stopped in many states, cities, on many different aircraft. I do not dislike any airline, model aircraft, or paint scheme. This is what makes them all unique. Therefore, I am not bigoted to make a choice when I fly, since all carriers are viewed as the same in my eye. Sure, they are out there to make money, but what every airline strives for is customer satifaction. And, for this reason, I do not choose a carrier for what they do, or do not do. I base them on the fact that I can get a low fare, and will provide me with the most effective routing no matter where I go, be it ONT-LAS, or ONT-DAR.

gs

PS: I LOVED those croissant sandwiches that DL used to serve... many people hate them. Me, I just love croissants  Smile.



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