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BA Business Class, Crampy?

Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

BA Business class

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Backward facing seats, those big flaps hindering free out look, narrow legroom, 1.85 m short beds. On their site, I saw they have 8 abreast on 777...

Must be relative crampy in business, specially window seat upperdeck (low ceiling). How can a FA put anything in front of a passenger ?

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Aussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 778 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Cramped????? Not in the least and the upper deck is the best place to be. 2x2 upper deck and the widest aisles around. Only 20 pax max.....2 crew.

Main deck is 2x4x2 and certainly is not crameped. The window seats are rear facing and have or appear to have more space.

Its a bed which is what most people want. Its private as the divider stops you from having to look at the other person but hey if you want to chat or converse then push it back and have this wide space between you. Its been a major development over the classic business class seat and look how others are copying.

Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

"Its been a major development over the classic business class seat and look how others are copying"

I think nobody is copying the BA rearward facing concept. SQ, CX, VS and others go the forward facing two seater way. Angled but flat sleeping surface.

BA should also have done this I guess, perhaps a bit too innovative to be handy ...

Flyer0001 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

I recently flew BA Club World from LHR to SFO with my wife.
We had the upper deck seats and I would say the seats are great. There is no cramped feeling what so ever. Actually I would prefer the upper deck as there are very few seats there.
The beds are comfortable and the rear-facing seats are perfect when a couple is traveling as you can have a face to face conversation.
I usually travel BA First or Club World and this was the first time I got the new flat bed seats. I don't think I will travel First with BA again. Club World is just fine.

Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1151 times:

Ouch Flyer0001,

I think BA won't be too happy with your last statement ..

Perhaps your and Aussiestu's statement about the upperdeck has more to do with service ; more crew per passenger could mean more attention and less hurry ..

regards

Hkg_clk From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 999 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

BA's new Club World is really innovative, but I do think that perhaps the fact that some seats are rear facing, and the fact that they are arranged 2-4-2 abreast may put some people off. But I've heard many people praise the comfort of these seats. So don't worry!

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Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

Looks like some things are different on this seat compared to the others. The divider is totaly different and I see light leather on the seatback.

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Are there more differences ? Why change the seat, I thought it was OK.

Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

I have a dissenting opinion. I much prefer the older cradle seats. I don't like facing strangers, and the privacy fan is pretty annoying (if you have any seat OTHER than the window seat, the view is almost totally obstructed). Also, the seat is a bit hard and the controls complicated.

The service, however, has always been first rate!

They don't have it installed on the IAH-LGW run...my experiences (only twice) have all been JFK-LHR and return.

AA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1040 times:

i took a BA 747 BOM-LHR and it was sorta cramped in business, i mean ive been in worse (ie: AA coach) but i have been in better (ie: CX business)

Go big or go home

Aamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1040 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 998 times:

There are the differences in BA business for one main reason....
The original split fan design for privacy was a nuisance apparantly... it was hard for the crew to do something so they made it a funny chinese like fan.... and the newer club is a lot more attractive than the origianl... the newer with more colour seems to look better... and i dont find it crampy at all....

Skystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 978 times:

It looks nice, however the actual seat looks narrow for a business class.

The seat looks little wider than an economy class seat. Although I can't see the whole aisle - the aisle looks quite wide - wasted space?

Cheers,

Justin

Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 971 times:

hmmm, i dont know if i like it or not..
strange..

Aussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 778 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 940 times:

Skystar (Justin)

The new cradle seat is an inch wider than the cradle seat. It may appear smaller but is not. Wider aisles upstairs may be a waste of space but it does not appear that it could be arranged any other way. I think its great.

Airpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 934 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 939 times:

I had the same reservations when I saw pics of BA's new Club World - but I tried it for the first time a couple of days ago between London and Singapore.. and they are wonderful! Nothing beats flying flat out and getting a good 8 hours' uninterrupted sleep on board. Choose the window seats in the upper deck - they are far more 'private'.

B747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 922 times:

I think the new BA Business class seats are Brilliant. I don't care about facing strangers or the seats not being private because I will be sleeping for most of the flight anyway. I think these new seats are excellent, a huge improvement on the previous cradle seats.

SR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1702 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 921 times:

A couple of months ago I flew the craddle seat from BOM-LHR, then 3 hours later I was in the new Club World seat on LHR-ORD. I can notice the difference and it was spectacular, the new seats are comfortable and definately a step up from before. Though 3 weeks ago I expericenced the new Cathay Pacific Business Class seats and I have to say, I prefer CX.

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Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 884 times:

Does anyone know on which Middle East destinations can I book the new BA business class sleeper seat ? Is it only Dubai (777) or also other destinations ?

thnx

Keesje

Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 877 times:

None of the Middle East destinations will be getting four class aircraft anytime soon.

Proud to be an Assyrian!

TF-FIW From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 860 times:

Keesje
Since January BA does offer CAI and DXB in a four-cls configuration,
hope this helps
Brgds
Ol

Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 853 times:

My mistake, BA does use a four class aircraft to Dubai however it's used on flight 108/109 which is only four times a week, and not daily.

09:15 13:25 DXB LHR BA 0108 BA 772
20:35 07:25 LHR DXB BA 0109 BA 772

Proud to be an Assyrian!

Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 839 times:

TF-FIW, Marco, thnx for info.

regards Keesje

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