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RJ Plans To Fly Nonstop AMM-KUL With A340 Or B777  
User currently offlineA330-243 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 251 posts, RR: 2
Posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

This article is nearly a week old but I have not seen RJ mentioned much lately, I hope this hasn't beem posted already!
Anyway with reduced landing fees we may see more carrier returning to KUL.

Royal Jordanian Airlines set to fly direct from Amman to KL

Associated Press

December 13, 2001

Royal Jordanian Airlines set to fly direct from Amman to KL, BUSINESS TIMES

Kang Siew Li


ROYAL Jordanian Airlines is expected to introduce direct flights between Amman and Kuala Lumpur from June next year, in line with its plan to make Malaysia its regional hub for Asia Pacific.

At present, the airline offers two flights a week (Thursdays and Sundays) to Amman from Kuala Lumpur via Doha.

Royal Jordanian sales manager Wilson Chan said the airlines also intends to increase its flight frequencies from the current twice a week to three times a week.

''We are currently looking for a new aircraft to replace the existing Airbus 310 to enable us to operate direct services between Amman and Kuala Lumpur.

''We have yet to decide on the aircraft, but we will be using either the A340s or the Boeing 777s,'' he told Business Times in an interview.

''We hope everything would come²out as planned by June next year,'' he added.

Chan said the airline met with Malaysia Airlines senior officials in Kuala Lumpur last October to discuss various aspects of the cooperation between Royal Jordanian and the national flag carrier.

''Discussions centered around the possibility of using the KL International Airport (KLIA) in Sepang as a regional hub where all Royal Jordanian flights between Amman and points in Asia-Pacific stop over and hub in KLIA,'' he explained.

Royal Jordanian currently serves two cities in Asia-Pacific: Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta.

Chan said the discussions also included the possibility of a code sharing arrangement or a strategic partnership with Malaysia Airlines to carry Royal Jordanian passengers to destinations beyond Kuala Lumpur.

''For example, a code sharing arrangement will greatly increase our connectivity to cities throughout the Asia-Pacific. It will allow us to sell seats to destinations such as China, Vietnam, Australia or New Zealand where we currently do not fly to,'' he explained.

The two carriers already code-share on flights between Amman and Kuala Lumpur that allows Malaysia Airlines passengers to travel on Royal Jordanian using the same flight code.

Chan said the airline is still in the midst of its discussions with Malaysia Airlines and expects to have an agreement finalized by June 2002 in line with the acquisition of its new aircraft.

He noted that today the load factor, or percentage of seats filled, on Royal Jordanian's flights to Amman from Kuala Lumpur hovers around 85 per cent, close to that of the previous year.

''The September 11 2001 terrorist attacks on the US didn't affect us much because of the types of passengers we carry,'' said Chan.

Royal Jordanian stops at Jakarta before it arrives in Kuala Lumpur on Mondays and Fridays.

Chan said passengers from Indonesia usually fill 60 per cent of the seats, leaving the remaining 40 per cent to be filled up by passengers from Kuala Lumpur. There are 17 seats in business class and 193 seats in economy class.

''Religious traffic comprises about 60 per cent of passengers from Indonesia, while the remaining 40 per cent comes from labor traffic.

About 80 per cent of passengers from Kuala Lumpur, meanwhile, are on religious pilgrimages and the rest are individual travelers.

''And despite all that has happened since September 11, it seems that many people are still making trips to Jordan to visit its historical and religious sites before proceeding to Mecca and Jerusalem,'' he added.

However, the same cannot be said for Royal Jordanian's flights from Amman to Kuala Lumpur. The airline's passenger load factor has dropped significantly to 50 to 60 per cent in October as demand weakened in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks. Prior to September 11, the load factor stood at about 80 per cent to 90 per cent.

Chan pointed out that the large decline in load factor cannot be blamed entirely on the tragic events in the US, although it had deterred many Europeans from travelling to this part of the world.

''Based on our records in the previous year, we saw a decline in the number of West Asian passengers travelling to Malaysia during this time of year because that's when school reopens.

''Thus, regardless of September 11, the inbound passenger traffic from West Asia will still be low,'' he said, adding that most of the passengers arriving in Kuala Lumpur are leisure travelers.

Meanwhile, in response to the temporary suspension of the price regulating Market Development Program (MDP) on November 12 2001, Royal Jordanian has reduced its fares to all European and West Asia destinations by as much as 20 per cent.

However, Chan said it is still too soon to gauge the potential success of the suspension, but, like Malaysia Airlines, the airline believes it will help boost passenger numbers.

''The suspension of the MDP doesn't mean all airlines will start lowering their fares to lure passengers back into the air. It depends on the needs of each individual airline.

''Those with plenty of seats and capacity are more likely to drop their fares and they are more likely to be carriers that provide a direct service,'' said Chan.

That's why foreign carriers such as Royal Jordanian have favored the MDP, which specifies that tickets can only be discounted to a maximum percentage of their fare.

However, Chan said the airline understands that under the current situation where airlines are suffering from the combination of a weak global economy and fear of flying after the September 11 attacks, the need for Malaysia Airlines to suspend the MDP in order to compete on price.

Copyright 2001 BUSINESS TIMES all rights reserved as distributed by WorldSources, Inc.

Taken from : http://www.globalsources.com/TNTLIST/2001/12/13/xfdws/1691-1354-ROYAL-JORDANIAN-AIRLI.sked..htm

Oh yeah and their livery is great !!

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Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Remi Dallot

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User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Correct me if I am wrong, but do they have B777 or A340? Good that airlines are increasing their frequency into KUL, after so many airlines decrease their freqeuncy or suspend their Kuala Lumpur flights eg. NWA, BA, Qantas, Aeroflot. Lauda/Austrian is set to fly in daily into Kuala Lumpur from Austria, Emirates is going to increase their Kuala Lumpur services by anohter 3 weekly flights and Qatar Airways is planning to make Kuala Lumpur as their Asia Pacific hub. Well, hopefully, some European carriers will make Kuala Lumpur as their Asia Pacific hub as most airlines plans to make KUL as their hub is Middle Eastern carriers.


User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

I am a frequent Royal Jordanian Airline traveler, and not at all B777 or A340 for RJ passenger flights, but currently an Airbus 310-300. Airbus 340 is now service for the Royal Jordanian Family & Gov't Use Only.

baec777  Smile

User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

Is it possible to be unemployed yet still be able to travel frequently? I suppose there are members who prefer to keep their personal details secret... or just forget to update their profiles.
 Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4754 times:

Seems like RJ will decide whether they're buying 340 or 777 in the future.  Smile

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1895 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

RJ had an order for 5 A340s. IIRC, the order was canceled a few years back.

User currently offlineAviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4745 times:

KUL and Jakarta are RJ's only destinations in the region?

Whatever happened to RJ's thrice-weekly Airbus A310 flights to Bangkok? Funny that RJ's Sales Manager is unaware that his airline flies to neighbouring Bangkok too.

KC Sim

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2855 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

If they plan on instituting direct flights by June 2002, my money is on ex-SQ A340s. I can't imagine there is any way to get new-build aircraft that soon (I know for a fact the 777 line is booked through Sept.), and I have yet to hear of any available 777s.


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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6811 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

I don't think it would be very hard to get any aircraft type at the moment, even 777s. Malaysian has said that it wants to sell 2 or 3 777s from it's fleet and a couple of 744s....and the 743 they're been trying to sell for years!!

For A340s, there's all the ex-Sabena ones, as well as the one that Tahiti Nui is going to return as well as the SQ ones. Air Canada was going to return a couple and Virgin might as well, so no problems looking for aircraft.

User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

There isn't any possible B777 or A340 for Royal Jordanian at this time.... but I think they retired their L1011-500 sometimes in mid summer of 1999. They currently flying their A313s as their long haul fleet, and A320s for their short/medium flights. I doubt that Royal Jordanian will be getting Boeing planes.. possibly a A330/A340, either 1, for right now A340 is for their Family/Govt use.


User currently offlineFUAirliner From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4713 times:

Hi everybody!

I do not know the exact distance between Amman and KUL, but I can imagine it is too long for an Airbus A310-300 if it is completely full.
So new aircraft have to be either leased or bought, but, especially in current times, is it possible to employ an A340 or a Boeing 777 and make some profit?
Additionally, RJ won't use a single new widebody just for one route (I assume they are not planning to operate a daily flight to KUL), so they surely consider other route changes.
Btw, this is how an Airbus A340-200 in RJ colours looks like (it is the government aircraft):

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Photo © Frank Unterspann

Kind regards,

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy FUAirliner
Frank Unterspann

Frank Unterspann - Hamburg, Germany
User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

I don't think MAS have any plans to dispose off their B777 right now since they are only grounding only 2 B777s and they could be used up just in case the market rebounds. They are more likely to sell the B747s, which 2 are up for sale right now, i.e. 9M-MPC and 9M-MPL, plus the two B747-Combis.

FUAirliner: RJ operates it KUL flight via Doha, Qatar.

User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4666 times:

What happened to Garuda Indonesia's Amman service Confused

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