Jetsetter From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 77 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1949 times:
I am planning to fly PHL-MAD in US Airways’ Envoy Class in May 2002. Unfortunately, they only fly the 767 on that route and it is a two class layout (unlike the A-330, which is not only newer, but has a three class layout). How does their Envoy Class differ between the two aircraft? I appreciate all of your comments.
Hoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
I recommend you try this question at the USAviation.com or Flyertalk.com message boards. USAviation is frequented by USAirways F/A's, pilots, and CSR's while flyertalk gets a lot of biz traveller traffic and trip reports.
AF777 From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1859 times:
The major differences will be in the seat width and pitch. In the 767 their is a 2-2-2 layout as with the A330, therefore the 767 seats are more narrow. Plus the pitch on the 767 is 55" and in the A330 it is 60". Other than that I think that the service is about the same.
GRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1842 times:
I would definately go with the 330. I was on the 767 envoy ..as I usually never have the money for first it was just the best that had ever happend to me...but the 330`s are much nicer/newer. They also have a better entertainment system (video on demand) and laptop power supply...satellite phone etc. Just a great thing (my uncle flys the US 333 and he told me its much nicer than the 767 he flew before..
Hope i helped y'a out a little!!
USflt1778 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 269 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
As both a frequent flyer and former US employee, I think that the A330 is a better experience for the following reasons:
- newer a/c and updated cabin
- electronically adjustable seats with 60" of pitch
- Sony Passport video/audio on demand
The 767 is still a nice ride, however the cabin is older, seats are slightly smaller (55" pitch) with manual controls for recline and legrest (that's about it; no lumbar, headrest, etc.), and small PTVs - most with scratched screens - showing scheduled programming.
Generally the service is better on the 767, since the f/a's tend to be more senior and like working the aircraft and serving only 23 passengers maximum. The A330 holds 35 in Envoy, plus 6 in First (which is now part of the Envoy cabin as far as meals and service are concerned). So, it takes longer for food, etc. and they are much more rushed and less personal in the service.
Jetsetter From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1760 times:
Thanks for all of your comments. I'll check out those other sites as well. I may change my itinerary and fly CDG-PHL on the return - which would be on the A-330. It's a vacation and an award ticket so I can do that! I'll be sure to do a trip report comparing the two if that's what I end up doing. Thanks again for your help.... Jetsetter