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Racial Profiling, Necessary?  
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2089 times:

I just read something that Buff wrote in another post and it made me think. Like he stated, he does not advocate racial profiling, but is it necessary? The enemy is trying to blend into society, so much that this latest incident involved and "arabic-looking" man with a passport that said his name was Richard Reid. Let's face it, most of these terrorist are of Arab decent. We all know that. They are out to kill us, and to harm Americans. It seems weird, and I hate to say it, but racial profiling seems the only other way to really hamper these people from attacking aircraft. I don't believe that every Arab is trying to cause harm, but people need to realize that it's not discrimination persay, but a means of protection for all passengers. I mean look at the fact as Buff stated them, an Arab guy, no bags, named Richard Reid, going to America. What do ya'll think?

UAL747

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User currently offlineSerge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

I highly agree with you UAL747.

It IS the only way to stop 'some' of possible future attacks IMO against airports and aircraft. I believe that not a whole lot has changed since 9-11 either, on one flight (although it was regional) my friends and I weren't screened or asked any questions about ANYTHING.. this was on the 9th of December this year.

I hope this AA 767 incident is another wake up call for airport security, they better not hit the snooze button again!

...Serge


User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

I just experienced this today. On the way back from LGA to ORD on United, a man who obviouslky looked Arab and was dressed in Arab garb was stopped before he boarded the plane. Shortly thereafter there was an announcement on the overhead speaker for "security to Gate so and so please". No one else was allowed to board at this time as the inspection was taking place. Eventually he was allowed to board and the entire process took about 10 minutes.

As the inspection was taking place I was thinking to myself, "I would probably be very pissed off if that happened to me!" But this guy took it very well - not one complaint out of his mouth and was fully cooperating with the authorities. On the one hand this has got to suck for this guy as well as other Arabs and Middle Easterners who are flying. I wonder how much of that they take personally and how much of that they could only take. But on the other hand, I understand that the public's protection is of the utmost importance and it would suck even more to have another air catastrophe happen.



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Well I'm for it, but it must be done politely and discreetly. Instead of overhead announcement for security, it should have been with walkie talkie.

Anyway, the one case for racial profiling is EL AL, they racial profile out their ass, but they also land every plane in one piece out their ass. So?


User currently offlineJonathan L From United States of America, joined May 2001, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

The latest culprit, as seen on CNN.com:


sigh


What else can we do to protect our airways?  Sad


User currently offlineCarmy From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

I don't know if you guys remember that in WW2, the US gathered up every single peace loving American of Japanese descent and sent them packing to camps and jails. That, if I remember correctly, was one of the most embarassing moments for the US. It was against everything the US had ever stood for, that it was the land of the free, that it welcomed all peoples of whatever background, and that it was a melting pot of different cultures. And now, you guys are actually suggesting a return to that? That Arabs and Middle Easterners should be subject to greater checks simply because of their race?

Tha very same country which accuses China of racial profiling in Tibet, of racial profiling in Kosovo, now has its citizens saying that racial profiling is necessary? I don't know, but it sure stinks of absolute hypocriscy and white supremacy to me.


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

...though I have several other reasons. It is the same as with this move of the USA to urge certain carriers to give away pax list in advance:
It looks good on CNN, it smells like"yes we are in charge and we bloody well know what we do", and, yes, it gives the chance to increase control over people just a little bit.
In the end, it's completely Bullsh.t. In terms of security it yields nothing, absolutely nothing, the next time they'll find another way to kill thousands of people. And if they want to go on using aircraft, well even there are other ways to gain control over an aircraft.
The USA are not used to this sort of violence, they haven't been experiencing it in their own country but for a few years. In other regions of the world, like former Yugoslavia, or Afghanistan, it's much easier to handle: Let the military take over and and shoot anyone who comes close and ask the corpse why he came close (that sounds rather cynic, but well...). That -fortunately- just doesn't work inside the USA.
So this time it's racial profiling, let's see what the hardliners come up with next time.
Merry Christmas to Singapore and anyplace else in the world from a very cold and snowy Berlin/Germany
Andreas



I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

Racial profiling, legal?

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

...you just make it legal. As for international law: Well, the biggest bully on the schoolyard (I have that saying from an American!) couldn't care less for international law, if it doesn't suit him.
Regards
Andreas



I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39703 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

The answer to this whole problem is very simple.

Let pilots carry guns and put more sky marshals in every flight.
No need to racial profile.

Should every young white-male with short hair be searched before entering a Government building or even a high school?
Remember Oklahoma City or Columbine?  Insane



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39703 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Baxter:
Was that supposed to be a joke?  Insane
So much for tourism in the USA.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineBarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Excellent idea Baxter! The only ones allowed to remain should be American Indians and herds of bison.


India, cricket junior and senior world champions
User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Was the man behind the Oklahoma bombings of Asian descent? What about the various car bombs going off in Belfast? Were they set off by Asians? Nope.

Terrorism is a fact of life EVERYWHERE, and racial profiling is only going to further alienate the minorities.

Remember that couple of WHITE American and Australian were found to be members of the Taliban.



User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Carmy and Andreas,

You're absolutely right, I agree with you both!

Baxter,

GROW UP!



SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineOgseminole From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Most flight crews have been "professionally profiled" since 9/11.
Every time we go thru security, at least one of us gets picked out and wanded and patted down.
We are being selected because of what we wear to work. Our uniforms.
If the minority of Arabs dressed in native garb have a problem with being selected, TOUGH!!
This is war folks and the old saying "All is fair in love and war" rings true.
Screw political correctness. It was fanatical Islamic creeps that brought us to this stage.
Profile them all.


User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

By all means make the case for or against racial profiling in America, but it is NOT THE SAME THING as what happened to the JAPANESE in WW2.

1> There was NEVER ANY Evidence that the Japanese in the USA were involved in anything related to PEARL HARBOR. On the other hand, the Arabs that crashed the planes in the USA were living IN THE USA.

2> The Japanese Americans were CITIZENS.. the ARABS that crashed the planes in the USA were NOT.

3> The Japanese were put in Camps and their property essentially stolen. Do you really compare that to be racially profiled when getting on an airplane????


User currently offlineAmerica West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Just keep all foreigners out of the United States and there wont be any problems like this again.

I was driving to school last month listening to the radio and some stupid woman called in saying that exact same thing.

First of all, like mentioned above, there goes tourism. Thousands of people will use their jobs, people will go broke, businesses will go bankrupt, should I go on?

Second of all, how many of us can say that we are 100% American Indian? We wouldn't be here if the US closed their borders a long time ago. Just about all Americans have some other sort of descent. Not to mention, that is what the US stands for!

...and there wont be any problems like this again.

Really? Did foreigners kill the kids at Columbine? Did an Arab cause the evacuation of ATL? After the Oklahoma City bombing, everyone thought that it was the work of some terrorist organization, and it turns out, it was one of our own people that thought he was some sort of "hero."

Baxter: I'm glad you're not president.


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5632 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Latest reports say that Reid, or whatever his real name is, is Sri Lankan.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineJfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

This is essentially the rationalization argument. It's not necessarily a bad one. But to put it in perspective, let's look at another area where racial profiling is said to occur in the U.S.: with blacks and crime.

In most large stores, the store employs undercover security guards who walk around to spot people who are shoplifting. Now imagine you had this position. The measure of your doing a good job is the number of people you catch who are stealing.

So, let's say you're watching the entrance to the store, and two people walk in and you want to follow one of them to see if they're stealing. One is a white woman, and the other is a black man. I bet nearly all security guards will follow the black man. Why? Because if you look at the statistics of who commits more crimes (rate, not number of people), it's black males who commit most of the crimes (I realize in my example, I confused the issue by comparing to a white female, but that's just to emphasize the disparity).

Now, you could say that because black males are always being watched and targeted, then that's why the arrest rate is so high (they're being watched and observed more). Maybe white males commit crimes at the same or higher rate, but just don't get caught because they aren't being observed as closely.

That's possible, but it doesn't apply when we look at the topic at hand: airline security (because you always know when the crime is committed because it results in an explosion/death/etc that's obvious). Let's look at all the airline-involved terrorist acts in the last two years, and there's a disproportionately high percentage of those commited by men of Middle Eastern descent.

So, if your goal as an airport security specialist is to stop as much terrorism as possible, then focusing on past data, you'll always target men of Middle Eastern descent.

This doesn't mean that people of other nationalities aren't capable of committing the same acts. But looking at past history, those of Middle Eastern descent do it at a disproportionately high rate.

I did a quick search on the web, and there's an interesting essay (with data) on racial profiling at: http://www.jeffsarchive.com/race/Race,%20Crime,%20and%20Violence.html


User currently offlineJm-airbus320 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Boston Globe had banded it about that the guy on the AA flight was a Jamaican, are they for real? The most Jamaicans can be accused of is  Smokin cool. And that's as far as it goes. Down with racial profiling!!

Jm-airbus320


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Racial profiling of Arabic people is unfortunately necessary, at least for the short term. It's realistically a small price to pay for the general complete freedom and high incomes that they otherwise enjoy in the US.

Incidently, before you do-gooders call me a white 'racist'....I'm a black Canadian.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

OK, so you're a black racist.

User currently offlineEtafilcon From Finland, joined Sep 2001, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

I think it's a fact that racial profiling would be effective in preventing hijackings, but the effect of such things on society would be severe. Officially promoting racism would lead to a more and more divided world and this would actually work for the terrorists: in a world where "their people" get discriminated only for being "their people" it would be much easier for eg. al quaida to get committed people to their side.

There could maybe be some kind of a solution. The officials would use racial profiling but also offer a substantial compensation for the embarrasment to the people who get the "extra attention". Just an idea, your opinions?


User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Many Americans have died to protect our civil liberties. It's nice to see how easily you are all willing to throw them away. Just because we are at war does not mean that we throw everything out the window and everything goes. We have rules to follow, which is one of the reasons we are a civilized country. If we start profiling our own citizens, we are no better than a third rate facist country. Not very patriotic if you ask me...

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Let's not forget that we have our own homegrown terrorists, who are/were white. Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and current reports that the Anthrax scare was
quite possibly committed by a disgruntled US military personnel....however, the vicious and savage events of 9/11, the foiled but nonetheless scary experience on Flight 63 point to the fact that Osama's gift to the Arab world will be racial profiling.

I firmly believe that we are fighting a war against terrorism, against a nasty, primitive organization that has twisted Islam in an effort to bring legitimacy to its cause, not to mention members. Having said that, I am a frequent flyer, and I am saddened to say that the sight of a Middle Eastern looking person with no hand baggage, well dressed, clean shaven or not, is something worth looking into, for peace of mind. The alternative is much, much worse.



25 Etafilcon : Ben88 - I suppose your comments were for me? I'm sorry I guess I sounded too pro-profiling. I'm strongly against it basicly because of the reasons you
26 HlywdCatft : Right now National Security is more important than Political Correctness. In the United States "Richard Reid" would have really turned some heads if h
27 VonRichtofen : If you're arab, and are racially "profiled" by security before your flight, then don't be pissed off at the airlines and security, be pissed off the t
28 Etafilcon : "P.S. Yyz717 is NOT a racist, he just tells it like it is." I just hate these kind of comments SO much. His comments are racist in the only true sense
29 B757300 : It is sad but in the world we live in today, it is necessary. If many of the hijackers and suicide bombers were not Middle Eastern, it would not be ne
30 HlywdCatft : Profiling happens everywhere. In this case it is more legit due to national security. For the most part I am against profiling because I doubt 3 afric
31 Yyz717 : Ben88 and Etafilcon, you guys are well-meaning but incredibly naive. Calling someone (such as me) a 'racist' simply because I support racial-profiling
32 Etafilcon : "If you guys can't debate in a civilized fashion and can't show respect for contrary opinions, perhaps you should not participate on thus forum." I do
33 B757300 : I forgot to add this. It is necessary @ the airport but not in the entire country. No one forces you to go to the airport and be subjected to the secu
34 Yyz717 : You are correct Etafilcon...you did not call me a racist. But you went on to say "why don't you just admit that racism is allowed on this column".....
35 Skymonster : If you take the profiling approach, sooner or later these groups are going to get some non-Arab sympathisers on board who will do their bidding - such
36 Etafilcon : Yyz717, I agree this is a very interesting topic and we should not go into name calling. I have a lot of respect for someone who can discuss a thing l
37 Post contains images Yyz717 : Agreed Etafilcon! Neil
38 Ben88 : I think the main problem here is that we have different definitions of racism, and we will probably never agree. Racial profiling is by definition rac
39 Etafilcon : Ben88, I think that profiling is in fact effective, but the side effects are very, very bad and can actually result in more terrorism. My point is tha
40 Yyz717 : There are many different definitions of racism Ben88, no one is exactly correct. Whatever your opinion, I respect your right to have one, whether I ag
41 Ben88 : Whether or not it's effective is not really the point. The question is are you willing to give up your freedoms for increased security? I'm not.
42 Etafilcon : So you think that for example my father, a finnish born nokia executive should not be allowed to travel. Farewell to the US economy then.
43 Ben88 : What about second generation Arabs, are they ok? Yyz717 is Baxter a racist?
44 Baxter : Etafilcon, if your father was born in Finland he should stay in Finland. He has no business in America during a time of war, and if he still wants to
45 Ben88 : lol who's Jason Seiple? He actually respects this guy.
46 Etafilcon : Baxter, I'm speechless. I'm glad you represent a tiny fraction of the U.S. population.
47 Thumper : Dont often reply to posts like this but for a young man you are closer to the truth than any of them! After reading most of the posts buy young men on
48 Goingboeing : Enough of the touchy feely we-don't-want-to-offend-anyone political correctness. Four airliners and 5,000 lives were lost and the people responsible a
49 Super Em : How would one describe a suspicious looking passenger? Lets not forget that these terrorists are part of a network. They can appear in any shape or fo
50 777236ER : How far will this "profiling" and "restrictions" go? How much is too much? More stringent security checks? Arabs not being allowed to fly, just becaus
51 777236ER : And remember, it only take a dozen or so non-Arabs who are twisted enough to cause another September 11th.
52 D : Racial profiling just shows how US is willing to sell out its "democracy". Now it will be exceptionally hard to sell that story to someone else. It is
53 Cicadajet : >Racial profiling is by definition racist, because you are selecting a person for differential treatment based on race or ethnicity alone.> don't forg
54 Voodoo : There is only one race: The Human Race. Anything that says otherwise is, in one form or another: Racism. Some genes may be prevalent in certain geogra
55 HlywdCatft : Well even though I do somewhat support profiling on Middle Eastern people to a point at airports, I will have to disagree with BAXTER on his claims ab
56 Post contains images Superfly : Jonathan L: I can post photos of terrorist too. Terrorist comes in all colors. Should white guys be searched at federal buildings, post offices, abort
57 Carmy : Superfly: Thanks for the photos. Good point you made there. The last time I checked, America prided itself in being the country where all the differen
58 Post contains images Superfly : Thanks Carmy. Let's not forget about this other American terrorist.
59 Superfly : Also, let's not forget about Columbine High School and all the copy-cats that followed. ...And to think these happened in 'safe' communities not the i
60 Fly_emirates : UAL747k the guy is from Sirilanka, which is not an Arabic country! i think you should check your facts boy!
61 Carmy : Baxter: Why don't you just say that Whites are not native to American, and therefore should go back to Britain or Spain or wherever. Then there wouldn
62 FSPilot747 : "Some priviledges need to be reserved for the Americans who were BORN here of AMERICAN parentage and not some lousy Arab who just happened to be born
63 Milesrich : OF COURSE IT'S NECESSARY. This nonsense of randomly searching passengers to be politically correct is one big joke. My wife, a Delta Air Lines Flight
64 Post contains images BarfBag : If you kept America for only those Americans who were born here of American parents, there wouldnt be any danger and things like September 11 would ne
65 TWAneedsNOhelp : 2 weeks ago I was driving in rural Ohio on my way to Pittsburgh and I also was listening to some radio station. They were talking about this mess and
66 Andreas : What has become of this thread????? I posted yesterday and said racial profiling is downright stupid not because it is wrong or political incorrect or
67 Post contains images Etafilcon : "HlywdCatft, my point simply is that people like you "of Albanian descent" or your "Venezuelan" girlfriend should not have been allowed into this coun
68 Post contains images Ryanb741 : Chill out guys. It is clear that Baxter is simply a wind-upo merchant - I mean with an Islamic name like Ahmad he is clearly having a laugh at our exp
69 Ual747 : Okay guys, the fact is, 8 times out of 10 (rough estimate), terrorism is sparked by an islamic fundamentalist. And, most of these people come from mid
70 Delta-flyer : I have always been amused by the term "racial profiling" because, as an engineer, I tend to take things too literally, and to me a "profile" means a s
71 Super Em : Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't remember anyone profiling white men with blue eyes and crew cuts after the Oklahoma City Bombings.
72 Superfly : Political Correctness has absolutely NOTHING to do with this! I am sick of these xenophobic bigots here saying that it is right! This racial profiling
73 Parra : Reading this thread just emphasises the point that white americans think that they are the "true" Americans, which is why black people must be called
74 Post contains images Hoffa : Anyone who attempts to draw conclusions about the views of "white Americans" based on a few responses in an internet chatroom is either a moron or a f
75 Yyz717 : Well said Hoffa.
76 Post contains images Superfly : Hoffa: Who has drawn conclusions about white America in this thread? No one in this thread is attacking whites as a whole. Once the atrocity had been
77 Post contains images FSPilot747 : If a Native American blew up the Empire State Building, would every single Mexican be stopped in the airport and searched? A Jewish Rabbi can get acro
78 Jaysit : Going back to the original post .....Richard Reid was no Arab. He is British of half Jamaican heritage. If racial profiling is indeed necessary, then
79 Post contains images David B. : FSPilot747
80 Post contains images David B. : Jaysit
81 Post contains images Carmy : Good point Jaysit! We in Singapore were laughing our heads off when a couple of us saw in the news that Sikhs have been the target of race attacks 'co
82 Post contains images David B. : who are we kidding? Non-minoritie americans can't tell the difference between their foot and ass, not even mentioning ethnic groups.
83 Wadha : UAL747, dont say you dont support racism, because it seems from your profile that you are absolutely a big racist!!! the guy wasnt arabic! okay!
84 Superfly : David B.: who are we kidding? Non-minoritie americans can't tell the difference between their foot and ass, not even mentioning ethnic groups. Obvious
85 Post contains images Hoffa : Can we please stick to the topic which is racial or other profiling when applied to AIRPORT SECURITY?!??
86 HlywdCatft : "Were the idiots who crashed into the WTC wearing an obvious Arabic outfit, or a turban? No, they were dressed like you and me" Actually, I can't reme
87 Superfly : Hoffa: The topic states: Racial Profiling, Necessary? I know it's hard for you to see that racial profiling is un-necessary and don't go blameing P/C.
88 Hoffa : Superfly: Imagine if you will your job as supervisor for one of our 20 busiest airports, personally responsible for the security of millions of travel
89 Hoffa : So America is attacked by thugs and security must invariably be tightened to prevent further outrages. We are then criticized for (a) allowing such a
90 Superfly : Hoffa: Ask the same question to the dozens of penny-pinching CEOs that will not put more sky marshals and arm the pilots?
91 Hoffa : Would an armed pilot or a distracted or unaware sky marshal have been able to stop a more intelligent version of "Richard Reid" from blowing up AA 63?
92 Superfly : No but they would have stopped the 9/11 events.
93 David B. : Well, because THEY WERE REPORTED. THRY TOLD THEIR ETHNIC BACKGROUND WHEN THE COPS TOKE THE REPORTS!
94 David B. : Can YOU tell the difference?
95 Post contains images Superfly : David B.: The morons who attacked them should have known Well, because THEY WERE REPORTED. THRY TOLD THEIR ETHNIC BACKGROUND WHEN THE COPS TOKE THE RE
96 Post contains images Superfly : David B.: Can YOU tell the difference? Yes I can. Can you spell?
97 EjayMD11 : No matter what some of you say racial profiling is wrong and will cause bigger problems. Look at John Walker, an american taliban, If he had cleaned u
98 Ual747 : Wadha, HOW THE HELL DOES MY PROFILE SAY THAT IM RACIST? It says where Im from, what my hobbies are, and my age.....how the hell does that support your
99 Yyz717 : Ual747, I've seen Wadha call other people racist....ignore her
100 Bruce : Racial Profiling when dealing with Muslims in your neighborhood, No. But in the context of aviation, dealing with passengers on planes: Yes. The terro
101 Andreas : Hoffa: It is totally useless to discuss racial profiling in light of political correctness (I'ver said that before!), but in light of aviation safety.
102 Carmy : What I'm gathering from this entire discussion is that Hoffa is saying that every single Arab should be stopped and searched before entering a plane?
103 Rlwynn : How many Asians or Arabs do you think are searched at Belfast or other British cities which flights serve Belfast? Not many. 99.9 percent of the peopl
104 PHX 1 : I think racial profiling is acceptable only when, the person seems suspicous for other reasons also. If a person of Arab desent is just trying to get
105 Wadha : UAL 747, it doesnt have to be in your profile. it s because you are encouraging racial profiling. Now you want every one who looks middle eastern to b
106 Super Em : Everybody here is acting like this is the first time that racial profiling has been brought up. For years African Americans have been complaining abou
107 Ual747 : Well, I never said that an Arab person should be denied boarding, not at all! Wadha, maybe you should get YOUR facts straight. All I said was that sta
108 Wadha : UAL 747, well i am sorry if i have offended you. I was mad though about the whole thing that is going in the world. I mean the whole terrorism thing,
109 Fly_emirates : wadha... you might have been harsh, but i guess you had a point. Profiling is not effective as some people on this post said
110 Post contains images Lehpron : Racial Profiling should be banned, however non-racial profiling should be in full use. Example of non-racial profiling: This Ski Lankan guy did not ha
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