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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2865 posts, RR: 25
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

I hope I'm not repeating any threads:

Malaysian have re-applied for their thrice weekly slots from May 2002. No-one seems to know whether the route will still stop and then re-start, but it is definite that the service has survived MAS's cutbacks.

El Al are urgently reviewing their position at MAN, having pulled off the route after Sept 11th. They are looking to resume twice, possibly thrice, weekly service from March or April.

Continental are still reviewing the service. For the summer, they have committed to a mixture of 777 and 764. Unfortunately, they are have not indicated any intention of reinstating the Monday service.

Malev hope to resume their summer 2001 schedule for the 2002 summer.

Finnair have restated their intention to have double daily A320/321s, replacing the DC9/MD80s.

The MAN-ATL service has reportedly had the best load factor of any Delta transatlantic service since the events of Sept 11th. Way to go Delta !!  Big thumbs up

Regards

Shamu



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1909 times:
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Good news!

Manchester has held up pretty well given recent events, and while there may be a reduction in the number of new services being started - existing ones appear to be performing strongly, as you indicated.

Never quite could understand the logic of Malaysia Airlines and El Al pulling out of Manchester, when both appeared to be successful.

El Al was long established at MAN, and a regular visitor to Gate 26 for many years mainly with 757s, but 767s and 747s were also sceduled with some 737s towards the end. Malaysia expanded rapidly, increasing frequency, then making the flight non-stop, then upgrading from a 777 to a 747 - which would seem to indicate they are pleased with flights to MAN.

Malaysia in particular appear to have re-thought their plans, if they want to become a major regional player - fine. But many of their Intra-Asian passengers have connected from long-haul destinations such as Manchester, if you make sweeping cutbacks of most long-haul flights then there will also be a significant negative impact on your remaining flights.

Shame about Continental not restoring daily flights, probably has as much to do with US Airways/british midland and their A330s as anything. I was glad to hear Virgin are coming back to Manchester again next Summer with a daily except Monday Orlando flight using a B747-200, which will be one of the very few scheduled UK-USA routes operated by this type - in contrast to last year. Keep expecting American to announce they're cutting MAN-ORD but theyr'e hanging in!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

That's the second destination that I'd heard that Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is going to resume. First it was Auckland, now it was Manchester! They did said that some of the 12 destinations that they are going to suspend / already suspended are going to be reinstated at some point. Well, summer is the high season for MAS, with flights from MAN fully booked most of the time!

Crosswind: I totaly agree with you that MAS should reconside their plan as a regional player. I agree that when I sat on the London-Kuala Lumpur and Austalia-Kuala Lumpur flights, most of them were going to other destinations, but with a stop over in Kuala Lumpur! MAS seldom relies on O&D traffic most of the time.

I would think that MAS might go via an European city before coming onto Manchester, or maybe nonstop and then onwards to New York. (My personal thoughts!) MAS said that they might resume those destinations if they can cut cost of operation on these routes.

Anyway, glad that MAS is still going to operate Manchester! We shall wait for the announcement from MAS saying which destination that they are not going to suspend or reinstate!

Regards.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1870 times:
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Didn't El Al pull out in June? What they claimed in public and the CAA statistics contradicted each other as they said flights were less than a third full!

I had heard that MAS hadn't applied for slots! We'll have to wait and see then!

David/MAN: 213 and counting


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2865 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

David

You're correct; what I meant to say was that after Sept 11, El Al said they would not be returning to Manchester in light of the economic climate. This, however now appears to have been reversed.

I can confirm that MAS have definitely reapplied for their slots.

Regards

Shamu



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1819 times:
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Shamu

Thanks for the confirmation on MAS!

The El Al office in Manchester were meant to be a bit put out with the pull-out with them wanting to maintain even a weekly service rather than eliminate the service entirely!

One wonders what the revised forecast figures for MAN in 2002 are going to be seeing that they came out in November saying they expected numbers to be down 10% to around 18 million!

I gather Virgin have again applied for a MAN-JFK (or EWR) service...one wonders if they will ever operate this service should they be granted the licence!

regards + festive greetings

David


User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1798 times:

Actually, why do MAS need to reaply for the slots since they are only like stopping for like 3 months? Well, this is definitely good news for both MAN and MAS.

Merry Christmas!


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