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Denver's Low Content In Airport!  
User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

In Denver International Airport , there are almost no international races and it pisses me off because every time we (Me and my bro) go spotting we never get anything good. The only things we get here is the Lufthansa A340, UAL 747, British Airways 777 along with many 737s which I'm tired of seeing. My question is when will DEN get better content!?!?


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
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User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Perhaps the airlines have figured that Denver would not support the larger capacity you desire.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

You want more content? Go to Progressive Int'l Airport. There you'll see their planes, and the planes from up to three other leading airlines.

User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

You act like Denver is this world-class metropolis or something. Frankly, I am surprised Denver gets what it does...It probably wouldn't have any if UA wasn't there. Look at similar or slightly larger cities like Minneapolis, Detroit, and Phoenix, they have less international airlines than Denver, but probably have more of a need (especially Minneapolis).

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

yo i hear what your sayin. in philadelphia we get ba 77 and a 744 a day, along with a lufthansa 343 and a airfrance 763. that is it. there are a million usairways flights, all practically the same plane. i few of the other airlines. however no dc-10's not many 767's 777's practically no 757's other than usairways. it sucks

User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

I know man this suck big time. If you spot it's not very cool to get the same stuff every day you are there, it's still cool to spot though!.


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

Geez... guys, airlines aren't going to start service just because a bunch of spotters want to see their planes.

With DEN, be happy with what you have, it could be worse. I don't blame you about being bored with seeing UA shorthauls 24/7. I see the whole AA fleet (except A300) when I go to my airport.

rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

I still want to see more planes like in Paris or Germany. All of those airports have 747s left and right. Denver only has 2 or 3 a day!



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Denver does not have the O&D traffic to support a bunch of international 747 flights, if ANY. Denver is not New York, LA, Chicago, or even Miami. I think you have an inflated image of what Denver really is...Denver is a domestic hub. If you want to see more 747s, hop on a flight and head to MIA or LAX.

User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Blink and 5280AGL said it best.
Denver doesn't support the traffic need plus airlines don't fly places just because some teenage spotters want them to.

I for one as a spotter will say that I love Denver. I spot reg numbers, and each trip through Denver in the past has helped me check off more and more of Great Lakes and Air Wisconsin's fleets as well as United's narrowbodies. What I wouldn't give to be able to check off every single box next to the United narrowbody fleet in JP Airline Fleets (only have about 2/3 of them spotted so far).


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Vafi88,

There are about 5 airlines that have shown interest in EVENTUALLY starting international service to Denver in the near future.

What we will probably see next is NRT service from Denver either by ANA or JAL. Both airlines have expressed great interest in starting service to Denver when the 16,000ft. runway is complete. We should see NRT service in about 2 to 5 years. Maybe earlier.

Air France has said that they would like to start Denver (DEN) service in the future, but right now they have bigger priorities.

But don't expect anything very soon. Be happy with what you have.

Not everyone gets to live near the largest, 10th busiest airport in the world....thats something to be happy about.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

BA,
how are your airport diagrams coming on?Thanks,Alex


User currently offlineAirplanelover From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

I live in Pittsburgh and we get allot of RJ's from other Airlines and For International we get USAirways A330's, no 747's or 777's. I dont really care, Im just happy to see any type of plane fly! RJ's and Props are fine with me.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Donder10,

I'm working on it slowly. I should have something worth showing in about a week.

Vafi88,

As everyone said, DEN isn't a ORD or JFK. You can't expect too much more. It has about all the European service that it can support. All it can support now is a CDG flight, but nothing else.

What Denver needs now is some Asian service. Don't expect any more from Denver.

Denver is in the Tier 2 catagory which is a catagory that can support some international service to Europe, and a little bit of service to Asia.

Thats about it.

You want to see more international service, then go to ORD or JFK. You'll see just about everything there.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16253 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Hey guys, don't forget about Air Canada. Maybe not glamorous but still an intl carrier. Several daily A319's to DEN and A319/732/D93 to PHL.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Hey guys, Aaron here.

I live in Denver, and I go spotting every Saturday and Sunday here. I am happy with what Denver has. I have JP Fleets and I do what Jason Does, check off tail numbers... DEN has helped me capture a majority of the fleet and I can't wait till they are all checked off.

Like they say, good things come to people who wait. And to add to BA's list of possible Denver Intl services is VG Airlines which is expressing interest in Non-Stop service from Brussells when they start up, operating the A330-300 model. This is a big welcome if it does come, but until then I am more than satisfied with UAL.......UAL.....UAL....and the other regulars. To make my spotting venture better, I just enjoy every aircraft as if it was the first time I have seen it, or if it were to be retired, no matter the Airline. Also when I take my photos here in DEN, I don't care if I shoot all Uniteds or whatever...they are pleasing.

All I am saying is be thankful for what is there, because if it wasn't you would have nothing, and that is the pits..

My 2 Cents..


Aaron Mandolesi
Denver Spotters Hub
Check for my URL in my profile.


User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

Also here is some of my latest shots from DEN.


Still interesting to me. Even a couple charters now and then.



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Photo © Aaron Mandolesi



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Photo © Aaron Mandolesi



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Photo © Aaron Mandolesi




Aaron Mandolesi
Denver Spotters Hub


User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

I saw you the other sunday A"Aron ,hehe. Don't get me wrong here guys, I love Denver, but I am a new person to aviation in The US and just wanted to see more because it's not a good thing when you lose all of your beloved Russian Aircraft and it's another drawback if the airport doesn't have certainaircraft there, that's all. Hey, that's great news about the A330 coming here (I've never seen the A330)


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

That's the spirit Aaron.  Big grin

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Aaron, how do you get those pictures on A.net? Me and my bro spot about the same place as you do and get the same pictures, but for some reason they only except your pics., our pictures are great, so are yours, but we have a problem scanning them on to the computer and they don't turn out great, but rather good. How do we get the scan prints to turn out great?

Thanks,

Vitaly

Hppy holidays!



I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Vafi, Aaron here..


Thats because i don't scan.. I use Adobe Photoshop and take the pics right off of my Digital Camera. I do some fine editing and they look great.. So A.net accepts them.. I use a 5.0 megapixel camera so the quality is of the highest.



Aaron Mandolesi
Denver Spotters Hub


User currently offlineBigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

Your scanner probably blows. No offense, and like you said, your pictures are probably decent, but if you have a crab scanner, it doesn't do your work any justice. Get a better one, or go to Kinkos...you might be able to save them to a disk. Either Floppy or Zip.

User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

We in MEL are kinda lucky in the respect to airlines, except for the Qantas monopoly that seems to just bring in plane after plane with a white kangaroo. VB and the new AN are getting more and more visable , but then you can add in:

British Airways 747
Thai Airways MD-11 , 777
Malaysian 747
Cathay Pacific 777 A340
Qantas 747 767
Air Canada 767
Freedom Air 737
Air New Zealand 747 767 737
Air Vanautu 737
Garuda Indonesia A330
Lauda Air / Austrian 777
United 747
China Southern 777
Emirates 777
Air China 777 747
Vietnam Airlines 767
Olympic A340
Air Pacific 737 767

ciao


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

and yeah, i was meant to finish that off by saying that MELs market is 3.4 million people, what is Denvers?

ciao


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32781 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

DEN's market is about 2.6/2.7M.


a.
25 BA : IndianicWorld, Roughly 38 million passengers a year. Regards.
26 IndianicWorld : ok, thanx mah4546 , merry christmas to everyone. ciao
27 Mah4546 : No prob IndianicWorld, just a side note, but for compartive purposes, if in the US, Melbourne would slot just behind Miami and just before Seattle.
28 IndianicWorld : Thanx again mah4546 , I have no idea of the US city sizes so thanx man. Didnt know Seattle was so big though? Melbourne had 15.1 million Pax last year
29 Gregg : I also don't think Denver can support many international flights, esp when UA has good connections from DEN to their international hubs. Somebody hit
30 Atcboy73 : Man, if you think Denver sucks you should try where I live. Waco Tx. We have your wide selection of C172s and the big dog twins like the C340s and SF3
31 5280AGL : DEN is the type of market that would support smaller international a/c types. Perfect for 767s and eventually the 753 (if it catches on), but then air
32 Usairways85 : anyone have any opinions on philadelphia? i think it is too dominated by usairways. although i doubt to see any new international airlines any time so
33 Donder10 : I agree with you USairways85. Phili has a lot of potential although I'm not sure what percentage of slots that USAir has. Alex
34 Blink182 : Denver is also surrounded geographically by several major cities already. LAX,SFO,ORD, and to an extent, DFW and IAH, although those are probably a li
35 Post contains images JC5280 : If you are out there early enough in February on those saturdays and sundays, you will see the UA arrival from Honolulu...thats almost and internation
36 Teahan : Hello, You think you have it bad, well come to EIKY (KIR/Kerry) in Ireland. What do we get? Well 1 Ryanair B737-200 and a few Aer Arann ATRs a day. Je
37 Twa902fly : really what do you expect in DEN? It's not a huge city or anything. Well you do have that United 757 that goes to Seattle and then there's a plane cha
38 Watewate : If anything, BOS needs an Asian service.
39 BA : Blink182, United has shown interest only to start LHR service. Other than that, they want to turn Denver into an intercontinental hub serving east and
40 Mah4546 : United's reluctance is what keeps DEN from trans-Atlantic service. They don't want to fly to LGW, so DEN-LON flights are not happening. DEN-CDG has po
41 Yyz717 : Just read in the Dec 21 airwaysnews online that Virgin Atlantic has applied for LGW-DEN authority.
42 Vafi88 : Where is it? Is it in the A.net news section??? Thanks a lot!!
43 AerLingus : Re Mah4546: I don't think that ANA would consider doing a non-stop to DEN since they already have UA's connections through LAX, SEA, and SFO. To do a
44 IndianicWorld : Air France was considering servicing DEN at one stage, but I thought they came to the conclusion that it wasnt profitable. Maybe as you said, it would
45 JC5280 : TWA902fly... You must have never been to Denver if you believe it is not a big city or anything. With a population of Denver city alone being around 6
46 Mah4546 : JC5280, have you not heard of Bermuda II? DEN cannot have LHR flights. Only airports that can have LHR flights are JFK, EWR, BOS, ORD, SFO, SEA, MIA,
47 AM744 : Mexicana is another intl carrier at DEN
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