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Getting Accepted Into Embry Riddle  
User currently offlineDeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 17451 times:

How hard is it to get accepted into Embry Riddle undergrad? For example...what is required for GPA...extra curriculars...SAT scores...et cetera. Should I have some prior flight training before I try to get into the flight school at Embry Riddle? Also...what is Embry Riddle like for those of you who attend? Thanks in advance  Big thumbs up
DeltaOwnsAll

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User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 17335 times:

Hey deltaownsall,
I looked in to going to ERAU when I was deciding what college to attend. I decided against ERAU. It costs nearly $40000/year to attend! I don't want to graduate with that kind of debt. Anyways,
Anything above a 3.1 and you'll be just fine if you have the $$$. SAT I'm not sure but just do your best and let the rest happen. Extra curriculars do what interests you; they all help, but none are needed. No, ERAU doesn't want you to start training before you go there because they train you to fly for an airline from day 1 meaning you'll have to undo all those habbits from previous experience. Basically it's not that hard to get in; the hard part is the $$$. One side note: the school 'guarentees' three flights a week if you want however it is so busy there students are lucky to get in 1 or 2 a week. Also, its not like you can't be an airline pilot (or whatever you want to be) if you don't go there. Plenty of people without ERAU degrees are in the position you want. I'm not anti ERAU, just want to let you know all the stuff they won't tell you in their info packets. Yes it's a good school and yes they'll train you to be what you want to become.


User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17319 times:

Hi all,

I'm going to apply to ERAU as a freshman in the upcoming fall term as well... I'm way too short-sighted to get into their flight school, so I wanna study in their Aerospace Engineering faculty.

Quite a lot of people up here on airliners say that ERAU is a rip-off... and I hear voices on the other side as well.. Does it really cost $40000 a year? I found out from their pamphlets that it's just around $10000 ($20000 max).


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17308 times:

Yeah the schooling costs about $15K to $20K a year but the flying costs an aditional $15K to $20K a year = $30K to $40K a year. Many students train at other on airport flight schools because ERAU's flight training tends to be drawn out longer than necessary. Also, you can't just take the plane up and fly it for a day, it has to be specifically approved before hand and must be a training flight.

User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17297 times:

Skyguy11 - Does it mean that if I ain't taking the flight school, it's just $15k-20k? (I'm going into Aerospace Engineering)

Thanks for the info.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17287 times:

When I went through Riddle's Aviation Administration program some 20 years ago (now I feel old), the tuition fees were very reasonable. I also remember that those that were in flight school paid a ton more. I would imagine that the same is now true.

The education that Riddle gives you is an excellent one. The people that argue about social life (by the way, mine was great while I was there) have their priorities missplaced. If you want a party school, go somewhere else; if you want an education, go to Riddle.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17274 times:

My son, a high school sophomore, is also interested in attending ERAU. After checking their website, I also found the cost to be indeed double if you take flying as part of the program. However, I think ERAU is an excellent choice for non-flying aviation education, since that is their mission. I have two colleagues who are ERAU grads, both very complimentary about the school. Both are now in their early 50's, and they are very competent workers. One is an engineer in our product support department, and is helping operators with problems relating to our products. The other is a very capable sales engineer.

My son and I attended the NBAA show a couple of weeks ago in New Orleans and spoke to an ERAU recruiter at their booth. She said the requirements for admission are...

1. Good grades (did't say specifically what)
2. Good SAT scores (>1150)
3. A CLEAN driving record (if you want to fly) - no speeding or DUI tickets!

Good luck to you all!

Cheers
Pete


User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17266 times:

When I graduated, almost 4 years ago, it was no where near $40,000 a year. With flight training it was just under $17000 a year, roughly. That included room and board. Not sure how much it went up since then. As for getting in, its not too tough, depends on the major I guess.

User currently offlineDeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17254 times:

Anyone got info on scholarships/grants/financial aid by any chance?  Big grin
DeltaOwnsAll


User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 17233 times:

Embry Riddle, if you can pay, you can play. We have a good friend and neighbor whose son attends and it costs a small fortune. There are better and less expensive ways to get a college education and accumulate time. Additionally, how many ER grads get hired by the majors? Do you need to spend $120-160K to get a job with ASA, Mesa, AAEagle, AirWis or Comair at $20K a year when you graduate?

User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 17223 times:

Quite honestly I don't know where a lot of you are getting the high prices quoted for ERAU. My son is now a senior down there and our costs are nowhere near what some have said. Without flight the per semester costs are $5680(that doesn't include the dorm or meal service ticket as our guy lives off campus-but here we pay for an apartment, lights,phone,food), the dorm is about $1500 per term and they have varying food plans to choose from(depending on how many meals per week you want to pay for). There is a $25 per term charge for having a car registered there. BTW-if you do go there and have a car, don't plan on driving too much on campus, there really aren't enough parking places and the tickets you get can get expensive(we found out the hard way-you do have to pay them or you don't get your grades and credits each term). And there is a $260 per term charge for Mandatory Fees(that covers the Student Government Assoc., Health Services, and Technology Fees). Check a lot of state schools and figure your costs as an out of state student and I think you will find the difference isn't very much. A plus is at most public universities the class size is huge, but at Riddle the class size is much closer to what most of you have had in high school. Personally I think that's good especially if you're having trouble in the subject-that way getting a litle more attention from the professor is easier.

As for getting hired by majors, my husband and I have a friend that does a lot of interviewing for Delta and Riddle on someone's application is a definite plus for the person. Milesrich-you do realize don't you that ASA and Comair are owned by Delta and are working on how to merge the pilots into one seniority list.

Deltaownsall(btw I love your name)-my son got into ERAU with a 3.0, did terrible on his SAT(got just a total of 1000) still got into Riddle and just finished his first half of his senior year with a 3.5 GPA. Your can do it if you want to, they have many,many scholarships offered, they will send you a booklet describing all of them when you are accepted. Good luck in your decisions, let us know what you decide.

PS-If you don't know it Riddle's web address is: (admissions)admit@db.erau.edu or their general web address is- www.db.erau.edu(this site lets you take a virtual tour of the campus plus lots of other things, try it out)


User currently offlineN863DA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 48 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17212 times:

Apart from Skyhawk, I've not seen so much disinformation spread about one school in a long time.

This is my first post in about 200 days, but I just have to say the following:

I'm at ERAU and have never heard such tripe about fees. As written above, (and I'm a Senior as of January) the fees are, granted, more expensive than out-of-state tuition for most state colleges, such as FSU, but the fees are (for me at any rate) $8650/semester.

I don't live on Campus, (you have to, your freshman year) but the room and board is around $1570 TOPS, and slightly higher for apartment-type dorms, available solely for Upper-classman use.

I am not a pilot, ever since they discovered that I can't see thru one eye, (it's always nice to discover you're blind) but the flying is - and this is being realistic - expensive, but there are ways to go off campus, if you choose certain majors other than Aerospace Science (Professional Pilot). There are other majors which allow you the exact same thing as this but just fly off campus - namely Aerospace Studies with an AOC in Airline Flying.

As written above, Riddle does have the advantage of being a small school, with more personal 'service'... and small classes, usually no larger than 40 or 45 kids.

The downside is that Riddle has a lot of people who think - quite literally - that they are God's Gift to Aviation. They walk around all high and mighty - and us mere mortals (namely Business & engineering students) pale in comparison to their greatness. It's not great, but it's a small price to pay. Just don't become one of these bigheaded buttheads!

About driving on campus - you can keep cars, but this is subject to change soon for resident students. However, the college campus is (relatively speaking) very small. It takes only about twenty minutes to walk from the absolute southern end (Lehman Building) to the absolute northern end (Corsair Hall) of the college. You can always use a bike or rollerblades. However, please don't bring any of those damned scooters as we have quite enough of the things.

As to whether airlines take ERAU graduates over those from other colleges... it's subjective and not really scaleable. HOWEVER, do not believe some of the speel that Riddle feeds you about that kinda thing.

A general rule with life aswell as with Riddle is that if it sounds too good to be true (eg - the direct hire scheme that we did have with ASA and now apparently have with ACA) then it probably is. Life never throws you a cookie - just the crumbs. You have to bake your own out of what you have.

http://www.erau.edu

And if Florida's not for you, there's always the desert version in Prescott, AZ.


User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17212 times:

I could not afford to attend Prescott or Daytona and do their flying program. Instead, I chose to attend ERAU College of Continuing Education (with satellite campus locations all over the US) and did my flying on my own at a much more reasonable price.

Classes cost about $450 a pop (plus books), and you can transfer your community college credits towards your degree. They also give you credit for all licenses and ratings earned on your degree program. They offer Professional Aeronautics & Aviation Management. I never had more than 8 people in a class and it was great! I did it in San Diego at a local Navy base, as most CCEs are co-located on a military installation. CCE is aimed at active duty personnel who want an degree from ERAU, but it's open to anyone.

While you do not get your ratings and hours at ERAU CCE, I found it to be a cheaper way, by $30K, to an ERAU degree. (And it all looks the same on paper.) You might consider it if finaces are an issue. It is also a much better option for those who are already employed and older than the average college student!  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17193 times:

Here's a link to a similar topic from FlightInfo.com, an (airline) pilot message board you might be interested in-

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=824


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17185 times:

I'm at ERAU and have never heard such tripe about fees. As written above, (and I'm a Senior as of January) the fees are, granted, more expensive than out-of-state tuition for most state colleges, such as FSU, but the fees are (for me at any rate) $8650/semester.

That's pretty much in line with the ERAU website, and many people do consider it high ...

Straight from http://www.erau.edu/finaid/estimcost.html"
Undergraduate students at Florida and Arizona campuses
Tuition and Fees $15,700
Room and Board $  5,480
Books (estimated) $     800
Total, non-flight students $21,980
Average annual flight costs $  9,185
Total, flight students $ 31,165


OK? $20K+ without flying, $30K+ with flying. whoever wrote $30-40K with flying was not way off the mark.

Cheers,
Pete


User currently offlineD-AIGW From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 261 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17181 times:

Do you think those guys got some sort of scholarship so they won't have to pay so much?

I've got troubles getting my parents to believe me that ERAU is a good school. Nobody here in Hong Kong has even heard of Embry-Riddle. They're saying that it's better to be in MIT, U of Michigan and so on...


User currently offlineSkyguy11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17173 times:

Lets say you go to a state school or a community college and then transfer to a state school for the last two years. Your entire college education will cost anywhere from 15K to 30K. ERAU will cost you $120 to $160 total. Through their curriculium, you will graduate with 190 hours, but lets say you somehow did some extra flying on the side to make it 250 at graduation. If you were to spend the money you save by not going there, this would equate to about 1000 hours if the plane and instructor cost about 130 per hour (a resonable price to plan on). This is a huge difference, and airlines just want to see that you have a college degree, not that it was from such and such school. If I had the money I would go there, however, because I think they are very goal oriented and provide the kind of education I want. I just posted this to show a contrast.

User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17164 times:

D-AIGW, if you can get into MIT or U Michigan by all means, do it! These insitutions are known world wide for a very good reason. By the same token, Riddle seems to be well respected in the aviation world. As far as fees go, I found the cost caomparable to being an out of state flight student at Purdue (which I am).

Doug PDX/LAF



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User currently offlineDeltaownsall From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 17158 times:

Thanks for the help everyone  Big thumbs up Would it be better to go to a regular college and go to Comair flight school after? What's the social life like at Embry for those of you who go there?
DeltaOwnsAll


User currently offlineFlightSimFreak From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17145 times:

When I read your post, I remembered saying almost the exact same thing in a forum on PPRUNE... E-mail me... FlightSimAlex@aol.com. Thanks.

User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2540 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 17128 times:

Ok I graduated in 90. It was a good deal then and I think if I had a kid looking at schools right now I would still consider it a good deal. I did a quick cost search:

Riddle $21,900yr
Purdue $22,132yr
FL Inst Tech $24,050
UND ~$10,000 Yes it is a bargin, but Daytona vs Grand Forks, no contest in my world.

These are all with out flight costs. Most of these schools have similar flight costs.

And one more MIT $37,460


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 17123 times:

Schools are just buisnesses. As long as you can pay the bill they will accept you.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17115 times:

N863DA-I do hope that your words meant that my information was correct and not that they were "tripe"(to use your word). The numbers that I wrote came from the tuition bill we received for our son and the description of fees came from the catalogue itself. The cost of the dorm was admittedly a guess based on the old catalogue we have here at home. Yes you are right on the size of the campus, it is small. What I was trying to say was that if you take a car down to DAB, don't plan on driving around campus-as you know there aren't many places that studnts can park without getting a ticket. Anyway, best of luck next term and in your future endevors.

User currently offlineDe727ups From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 814 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 17097 times:

"As for getting hired by majors, my husband and I have a friend that does a lot of interviewing for Delta and Riddle on someone's application is a definite plus for the person."

Skyhawk...you are a very nice lady and I like reading your posts. I have seen you mention that ERAU gives a person an "edge" at the major airline level. Your Delta friend may feel that way...or he may have told you that since your son attends ERAU. In my experience nothing could be further from the truth.

A degree is a degree is a degree. It needs to say 4-year on it so you can check the box. We have ERAU grads and local state U grads at my company. We have aviation majors, psych majors, geography majors, history majors, and a lot of other majors. All have got where they are in aviation because they worked their butts off to get there.

I have let your pro-Riddle comments go in the past but this is a pretty popular thread and hate to see mis-information. I'm sure you and I can just agree to disagree on this one point. My opinion is based on 12 years as a major airline pilot and talking to the many new hires I run into.

I graduated from Riddle in 82, started at Prescott and finished through the international campus program someone else mentioned. It's a good school, but not worth the money in my opinion. If you have a hard on to go there, then knock yourself out. Just don't believe everything you read at airliners or at the Riddle web site.


User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17093 times:

De727ups-let's get one thing perfectly clear, I am a lady and truly don't appreciate your comments made concerning a "hard on". As far as my information is concerned, it comes from not only having friends in certain places, but over 20 years in the business on my part and almost 30 years on my husbands part. Oh yes, like you he too is a Riddle graduate, l974 Daytona Beach. As far as your "letting" my pro-Riddle comments go, I don't need yours or anyone elses permission to tout the school. It is an institution in the aviation industry and I dare say will continue to be so. Not to say that there aren't other excellent schools around that have very good aviation programs, they are out there and they too will continue, we need all of them. The basis of this discussion was from a kid that is simply trying to gather information on where all of "us" thinks he should try. In reality he probably should try Purdue, Michigan, UND, amongst others.

One thing we do agree on is the fact that no matter where you decide to go, you have to work very hard, get very good grades, and then hope you get noticed in the initial interview. Nobody is going to hand anything to you, you must work for it.


25 Delta-flyer : As far as ERAU not "worth the money", any private school will cost that much. If a person can't afford it, there is still the possibility of financial
26 RL757PVD : there are always these posts that come on about flight schools. You will always have 1/2 support ERAU and the other 1/2 bash it, it truly does get si
27 Skyhawk : RL757PVD-I think what you said is just perfect. Thanks for prevailing with a cooler head. Some like Riddle and some don't, that's OK, everybody has th
28 Continental : I wanted to go to ERAU, but then I noticed the cost. I thought about UND. I'm still a freshman, but I'm still deciding. Continental
29 De727ups : My advice if you want to be an airline pilot.... Get a four year, non-aviation degree, from a state college or university in a subject you enjoy other
30 N863DA : Skyhawk: To confirm what you thought, I was saying that I agreed with you and not with anyone else who had posted before.... I was not doubting your c
31 Skyhawk : N863DA-Thanks so much for the reply and your supportive answer. BTW-Happy New Year to all here and please don't drink and drive. I'd like to be able t
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