Hash From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
I just read on the BBC website that India will close its airspace to PIA from 01/01/02! I can;t believe that this has happened. What will happen to all of PIA's flights to the Far East that overfly India? Are there any international laws or treatys that can stop this from happening?
Hash From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1989 times:
The cost of flying around countries would be enormous. I expect that PIA might have to cancel many of its Far Eastern flights. If PIA flights went round the northern top of India (Southern China) the detour may not be as bad as going around the tip of Southern India but it would be a major blow to the airline's operations
Aviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1964 times:
The airspace of a country is that's country's to open and close as they see fit.
America has not allowed Cubana to use their airspace for nearly 40 years, forcing Cubana to fly up the eastern seaboard and then flying inland to Toronto (sometimes needing a stop in Halifax??)
At least with this round of sanctions against Pakistan, India is giving PIA some time to put emergency plans into place.
It is thought that flights to Dhaka will be the hardest hit (as will flights to BOM and DEL)
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1940 times:
The Indian government has, as usual, nothing better to do. Saber rattling keeps right wing groups on both sides in political power, although I'm sure that providing the bulk of India and Pakistan's 1.2 Billion people with good loos, running water, and schools that work would calm them all down. But I digress - those tasks are so much harder to do, while shutting down air space and screaming for war is so much easier. . . I suppose the Pakistani government will now do the same, although I'm sure that Air India's Delhi-Europe-US flights do not fly over Pakistani Air space.
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
And do you think the Pakistanis are doing any better about this situation!?! Jaysit you must be joking
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6016 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1843 times:
Well, who cares? My company prohibited me (and 100,000+ colleagues world wide) to fly to or over both countries three and a half months ago. So no change for me, really.
Nuclear powers on the brinks of mutual war will never be great attractors of foreign business relationsships. Not tourism either.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
Covert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1436 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1806 times:
but this will affect air india more than pia. they claim that 110 daily flights pass through pakistani airspace out of delhi, as opposed to to only a few pia flights to singapore, manila, etc..
Hash From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1790 times:
India, Pakistan to re-schedule air routes
By Masood Anwar
KARACHI: Pakistan and India closed their air space for commercial flights of each other and now national flag carriers of both countries - Pakistan International Airlines and Air India - will have to reschedule their flights and air routes. All the flights towards the Far East from Pakistan will be disturbed by the closure of the Indian airspace while India may have to suspend or divert all its west-bound flights from New Delhi to the Gulf, European and US destinations, aviation experts said.
"We are watching the situation carefully and will assess the feasibility of every flight," Khurshid Anwar, Chief Operating Officer of PIA, told The News. However despite several attempts to contact the officials of the CAA, o body was available for their reaction.
PIA has been operating five flights for Mumbai and three flights for Delhi from Karachi every week while from Lahore four flights are being operated for Delhi. After the closure of Indian airspace, all these flights will be suspended. About 13 flights are operated by PIA for the destinations located in the Far East overflying India, Burma and Thailand. All these will be disturbed. "Definitely we will reschedule our flight operations," Khurshid said and added that all flights found not feasible would be suspended. PIA is flying twice for Hong Kong in a week and these flights would be re-routed over China, he said.
Alliance with airlines for the affected routes is not out of the question. PIA could go into agreement with other airlines on the block space basis, he said. Due to the Afghan situation, many foreign airlines had already suspended flying over Pak-Afghan routes. Thus India was already flying lesser number of flights over Pakistan. Closure of Pakistani airspace for India will mean a negative impact on all west-bound Indian flights that take off from Delhi airport. Its flight operations from Mumbai and Calcutta will not be affected.
In case of closure of Pakistani airspace for Indian planes, India will be shifting its entire flight operations for the Gulf, Europe and US from Delhi to Mumbai and Calcutta, experts said. Pakistan also did the same exercise in September after the closure of the Afghan airspace and shifted its entire flying operation for Europe and US from Lahore and Islamabad to Karachi, they recalled.
After the closure of Indian airspace for Pakistani aircraft, PIA has now been forced to use new routes passing over the Arabian Sea to Colombo for the destinations located in Far East, they said. Change of route means extra flying time of more than 50 minutes and consumption of extra fuel worth of thousands of dollars.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
Pathetic that 50 years after independence it has come to this. 1.2 billion people being held economic and political hostages by a handful of politicians and military generals with pathetic visions of military grandeur, while the big economic power to the North East (China) barrels down the road to economic might with its 9% annual industrial growth.
Indianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
Jaysit: You are right We are being held hostage to terror. Maybe the current action will help eliminate this threat and allow to concentrate on our economy.
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