Airmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 390 posts, RR: 1 Posted (13 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3168 times:
How many airlines carry out their passengers U.S immigration checking at Shannon, Royal Jordainan do, and PIA did till 2000, any others? I think it makes sense, should other airlines also be required to do this
PUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3135 times:
Why should it make sense to require airlines to stop at Shannon, Ireland to do the US immigration there?
I think the 2 mentioned are only stoping there because of the lack of range of their aircrafts.
Immigration should be done at the final destination (read U.S.).
AirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
I belive all passengers on flights from Shannon to the USA are pre-cleared by US immigration in Shannon. This has nothing to do with the airlines. US immigration has their own facilities and immigration agents in Shannon. It's sort of like when passengers travel from the Canada to the USA. The difference is that passengers from Shannon have to clear customs in the USA. Also passengers from Aruba are pre-cleared by US immigration in Aruba before flying to the USA.
EI133 From Ireland, joined Jan 2000, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3107 times:
We have this facility in Dublin as well. If you are traveling from Dublin to the USA you clear immigration at Dublin airport. However if your flight routes via Shannon you clear immigration at Shannon Airport. It is a very good service as you save a lot of time at the other side.
Mcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 3063 times:
This is how it works:
At check in you are given your immigration documents (as opposed to onboard the aircraft like when you arrive in the US from LHR for example).
Before you arrive at the gate you go through what is called pre-inspection. Your documents are checked, stamped and you are sent through to the gate.
On arrival you wait on no immigration lines. You simply follow the directions of the ground staff to the baggage area. This is still the international arrivals baggage.
You claim your baggage.
You proceed to a customs agent, hand him/her your docs, they say bye bye and you are in the USA.
I have spoken with an INS agent about this and he has told me that in countries where there is a low risk of people claiming asylum and seeking refugee status they conduct pre-inspection to sort the flights on arrival in the US. Whether or not this is true I do not know. It certainly is not done to save time on the other side. The US Government could certainly care less about how much time they waste of ours!!!!!!
Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3054 times:
>>>I have spoken with an INS agent about this and he has told me that in countries where there is a low
risk of people claiming asylum and seeking refugee status they conduct pre-inspection to sort the
flights on arrival in the US. Whether or not this is true I do not know.
I always understood it to be the opposite: they check would-be immigrants from countries which more refugees/asylum seekers are expected from; reason: they want these people not even set foot on US soil, because if they do, even before they passed immigration, they can seek asylum.
The UK used to do that in Prague but stopped after massive local protests.
Airmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3015 times:
PIA used 747s on the route and their stint at Shannon which was only because they claimed it was the cheapest airport to operate out of in Europe and had no curfew timings and the added advantage of the U.S immigration facility, lasted a brief one year 1999-2000, previously PIA routed their U.S flights via Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt not all three at the same time just one stop on each flight e.g KHI-CDG-JFK
TWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2990 times:
Yeah NAS has an INS and Customs station at the airport. This also allows flights from the Bahamas to many different cities in the US and not all with extensive international arrival facilities like PBI, etc...
I think the INS and Customs officers are US citizens who live in these countries for like a stint and then move back to the US.
Baec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
I was on Royal Jordanian Airlines from Amman, JORDAN to New York JFK on October 26, actually stops in Shannon, and I was only destined for JFK. So I wouldnt worry about that. But when I was on a JFK-AMM flight on RJ, yes we had several American/US Passports passengers getting off RJ @ Shannon airport. That's a Airbus 310-300 both ways.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2952 times:
I think once LHR's Terminal 5 construction is underway, the airport authorities should seriously consider putting in USA Federal Inspection Service facilities at LHR. The reason is simple: this will speed up things on the US side, especially since a large fraction of LHR's international traffic is to the USA.