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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

How many airlines carry out their passengers U.S immigration checking at Shannon, Royal Jordainan do, and PIA did till 2000, any others? I think it makes sense, should other airlines also be required to do this Confused


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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4162 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2656 times:

Why should it make sense to require airlines to stop at Shannon, Ireland to do the US immigration there?
I think the 2 mentioned are only stoping there because of the lack of range of their aircrafts.
Immigration should be done at the final destination (read U.S.).
Peter



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User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2640 times:

I belive all passengers on flights from Shannon to the USA are pre-cleared by US immigration in Shannon. This has nothing to do with the airlines. US immigration has their own facilities and immigration agents in Shannon. It's sort of like when passengers travel from the Canada to the USA. The difference is that passengers from Shannon have to clear customs in the USA. Also passengers from Aruba are pre-cleared by US immigration in Aruba before flying to the USA.

User currently offlineEI133 From Ireland, joined Jan 2000, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2628 times:

We have this facility in Dublin as well. If you are traveling from Dublin to the USA you clear immigration at Dublin airport. However if your flight routes via Shannon you clear immigration at Shannon Airport. It is a very good service as you save a lot of time at the other side.

User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Does Shannon also have US customs? That is, all pax arrive as domestic in the US rather than going through the international arrival process?

Pete


User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

This is how it works:

At check in you are given your immigration documents (as opposed to onboard the aircraft like when you arrive in the US from LHR for example).

Before you arrive at the gate you go through what is called pre-inspection. Your documents are checked, stamped and you are sent through to the gate.

On arrival you wait on no immigration lines. You simply follow the directions of the ground staff to the baggage area. This is still the international arrivals baggage.

You claim your baggage.

You proceed to a customs agent, hand him/her your docs, they say bye bye and you are in the USA.

I have spoken with an INS agent about this and he has told me that in countries where there is a low risk of people claiming asylum and seeking refugee status they conduct pre-inspection to sort the flights on arrival in the US. Whether or not this is true I do not know. It certainly is not done to save time on the other side. The US Government could certainly care less about how much time they waste of ours!!!!!!

Hope this helps.

mcmahonsmr


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

>>>I have spoken with an INS agent about this and he has told me that in countries where there is a low
risk of people claiming asylum and seeking refugee status they conduct pre-inspection to sort the
flights on arrival in the US. Whether or not this is true I do not know.

I always understood it to be the opposite: they check would-be immigrants from countries which more refugees/asylum seekers are expected from; reason: they want these people not even set foot on US soil, because if they do, even before they passed immigration, they can seek asylum.
The UK used to do that in Prague but stopped after massive local protests.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineKwsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

The US wanted to do this at LHR as well. In the end they could not do it as there was no room at LHR for all the facilities.

User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

The only countries where US Immigration does pre-clearance of passengers before they travel to the USA are Ireland, Aruba, Bermuda, Canada, and Bahamas.

User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

As far as I know, when Air Malta was flying to the USA with leased ATA aircraft and stopping over at Shannon, they used to clear immigration there.
-turbolet


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

PIA used 747s on the route and their stint at Shannon which was only because they claimed it was the cheapest airport to operate out of in Europe and had no curfew timings and the added advantage of the U.S immigration facility, lasted a brief one year 1999-2000, previously PIA routed their U.S flights via Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt not all three at the same time just one stop on each flight e.g KHI-CDG-JFK Smile

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User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

Yeah NAS has an INS and Customs station at the airport. This also allows flights from the Bahamas to many different cities in the US and not all with extensive international arrival facilities like PBI, etc...

I think the INS and Customs officers are US citizens who live in these countries for like a stint and then move back to the US.


User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

I was on Royal Jordanian Airlines from Amman, JORDAN to New York JFK on October 26, actually stops in Shannon, and I was only destined for JFK. So I wouldnt worry about that. But when I was on a JFK-AMM flight on RJ, yes we had several American/US Passports passengers getting off RJ @ Shannon airport. That's a Airbus 310-300 both ways.

baec777


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7929 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2473 times:

I think once LHR's Terminal 5 construction is underway, the airport authorities should seriously consider putting in USA Federal Inspection Service facilities at LHR. The reason is simple: this will speed up things on the US side, especially since a large fraction of LHR's international traffic is to the USA.

User currently offlineMick From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2466 times:

You still have to do a pre clearence check at Prague for all flights to the UK.

Mick


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