Aamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1040 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2653 times:
The big European carriers think the future for Europe is three airlines....
Just the three major carriers, and likely a hub and spoke network similar to the US.
If this is going to happen who do you think should merge with LH, AF or BA???
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8774 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
Whatever the current alliances are.
Air France/Alitalia/British European/CSA
BA/Iberia/Swissair (?)/Finnair/Aer Lingus
LH/British Midland/Austrian Group/etc.
KLM and ???
I think Europe would do fine with four main groups, plus the likes of EasyJet and Ryanair.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2316 times:
Sushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
MEPDC9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2283 times:
I still think the goverment should let USA and UAL merge because any day now USA gunna go bankrupt.
Alexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2220 times:
Mfricke From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2211 times:
AirTran and America West
With two powerful hubs in Phoenix and Atlanta, and smaller ones in Columbus and Las Vegas, it could be a pretty strong airline.
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3114 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2185 times:
NWA ARJ From United States of America, joined May 2001, 547 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
Northwest and KLM airlines with the NW name
Nightmare 68, Fargo Tower, Runway 36, Fly Runway Heading, Mantain 10,000, Cleared For Takeoff, Change To Departure
Cheese-Jet From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 70 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2144 times:
AA and UA.
One HUGE airline. Too bad it will never happen.
Mcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2135 times:
If Air Canada is ever forced into a corner and has to consider putting itself up for sale, seeking bankruptcy or being re-nationalised, my preference would be for an AC/LH deal, with AC as Lufthansa's North American sub-brand.
Reasons:
- Good fleet commonality (for swapping aircraft to meet fluctuations in demand)
- An existing commercial relationship (LH having expressed interest in buying a stake in AC at one point)
- Relatively little route or hub overlap
- Better odds of AC surviving as a brand name and keeping its overseas network intact than under a deal with UA, NW or another U.S. carrier.
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4839 posts, RR: 20 Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2136 times:
i could imagine LH buying Austrian Airlines.
Oh, and they could found a new Airline for Belgium if DAT fails
I doubt that KLM will merge, as they are the "royal dutch airline", and they are maybe the same for the netherlands what the Swissair was(and what Swiss Air Lines will be) for Switzerland.
But those countries have a very small home market:
The Netherlands have 15.000.000 inhabitans, Switzerland only 7.000.000 ! Compare this with 59.000.000 people living in the UK or 83.000.000 in Germany !! It would be easier if the Swiss Air Lines and AUA merge with LH as they would have a market of nearly 100.000.000 People together(Most people in Switzerland speak German, about 70% i think). But Switzerland wants to independent from everything and everyone, so they will always have their "own" airline
Aamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1040 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2130 times:
I thought LH already had a stake in Austrian?????
They certainly held a stake in Lauda....
And im pretty sure they have a hlding in Austrian... something to look into.
25 Nightcruiser: Virgin Atlantic and KLM. My 2nd and 1st favorite airlines, respectively.
27 Bicoastal: I'm combining more than two, but let's merge DAT (Sabena, whatever) Alitalia, Aerolineas Argentina, America West, Swissair and US Airways....why not c
28 DeltAirlines: And on the US front, DL and CO would make me happy, but DL and AS would also suffice, giving DL a West Coast presence. Jeff
30 Racko: oh and LH & Virgin atlantic would also be great... 2 airlines which use only 4-engined planes for transatlantic flights, competing with BA & AF, both
31 Bmi330: what about Jetblue,US Airways and American West all joining toghether cause fleets are prity compatible whith all those airbuses. also what about havi
32 Ciro: United and Continental, if combined, would be the most powerful airline ever, with hub-airports in the most important and strategically located cities
33 Indianguy: I think Indian Airlines (IC) and Air India(AI) should be merged. That would have happened if the jerks in the Parliament had understood the airline bu
34 H. Simpson: I would say Northwest and Continental. happy new year from NYC mike
35 Timberwolf24: I think ATA and Airtran would be a good fit. Airtran would have access to larger aircraft and open them up to the west coast. ATA would gain the 717 a
36 Rwy31R: United to eat up Northwest and put it out of it's mesery!
37 BH346: Delta buys out Northwest(Won't happen). Delta is my favorite US airline and Northwest has all the routes I'm always flying on(mostly to Asia).
38 Rhino4ever: United is in misery. Consistently has some of the worst airline management, late, high complaints, disgruntled employees. Has always been the ??? of t
40 Vafi88: I would want to see... Qantas and United Delta and Qantas Delta and Aeroflot Aeroflot and United United and Delta Lufthansa and Aeroflot Lufthansa and
42 Fly_ATA: ATA and Airtran because the passengers all think we are the same airline anyway!!!
43 QantasAirways: Honestly, I would love to see: Qantas and Singapore Airlines Qantas and Air New Zealand I don't give a crap about what BA has to say about that... heh
44 Bestwestern: BMI and Aer Lingus Same destinations, aircraft (73's A32's A330) Same part of the world Loads of LHR Slots - DUB-LHR every 30 minutes! Portugalia, Air
45 Flyinghighboy: QF/AA and since they have similiar fleets apart from 747's and the 777's. but they share teh 737 aren't they for seasonal use? Emirates and Gulf would
47 777d: Alaska Airlines and US Airways East coast and West coast would be covered and then US Airways could develop and start service to Asia and Hawaii from
48 Johnnybgoode: might not make sense, but seems fitting at a first glimpse: Continental/Alaska Airlines Northwest/America West additionally, i´m pretty sure that if
49 Pecoua: UA and CO...great route structure...if you put one route map over the others, nothing overlaps...and talk about the fleet...absolutely the best combo.
50 Japanguy: How about Cathay and Emirates? Both are well known luxury brands and could operate in their markets effectively (Emirates could provide extensive Euro
51 Gmonney: They could take the north american market by storm!!! Grant
52 Go Canada!: BA would burn qantas at the stake if it wanted to merge with SIA, that is unless qantas was mounting a full takeover of singapore, that way BA would b
53 GF-A330: "Koren and Aeroflot with Gulf air for the most unsafe and loopy airline. " Huh ! How can you call Gulf Air the most unsafe airline ? What facts do you
54 Bmi330: what about iberia and alitalia merging so that they are not swolowed up by "one of the big three" and then u could have BA bying them up after klm is
55 VgnAtl747: Nightcruiser: I was thinking the same think as you... although I've never flown with KLM, I hear their service is really nice. VS is my favorite airli
56 Lan_Fanatic: LanChile and Varig THE GREAT UNSINKABLE SOUTH AMERICAN AIRLINE SUPERPOWER! Lan_Fanatic
57 CVG777: Qantas and Cape Air... Actually I would like to see Delta and Continental merge, retaining the Delta name of course.
58 Airlinelover: I'd like to see Northwest and KLM, with the NW name, or maybe NW just plane (J/k) taking over AWA.. The America West fleet would fit right into NW's e
59 Pilothica737: Delta and UAL.... how kick ass would that be? Delta would rule the world.. wait it already does! The airline would still be called Delta though... Jac
61 Victor: I think Cathay Pacific + Dragonair is good. Then Cathay can fly to China and some small cities in asia.
62 Konstantinos: CRONUS and AEGEAN Airlines have already merged in Greece and that is very good for both airlines. Maybe this way they will still keep on flying. AXON
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