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User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

Once BMI (British Midland) was considering the 717/A318. Has anyone heard anything about this?
717fan

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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16281 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

I haven't heard anything on this for a while. MDD/Boeing made a strong pitch to BMI to replace the F100/F70 fleet with the 717.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1059 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

bmi has talked recently about moving its Fokker fleet on to someone else, maybe the scrapman...
But what they want to replace it with i dont know...

Did anyone hear the rumour that bmi was going to become a lo-cost operator...???


User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1159 times:

i cant remember when but bmi said they where aming for an all airbus fleet whith the exeption of embrace aircraft which they have order so there aircraft enginers can speshalise in them sopposedly try bmi press reles arcive think it was 2001

User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

if BMI has the money in the near future and decides to buy a replacement I think they would go with the a318s instead of the 717s as they are cheaper and they already have a320s,etc......what do u think?

User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

Is the A318 really cheaper?

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1110 times:
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AAmd11

It's low-cost as in minimising their operating costs and not as in £5 fares!

David/MAN


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

BMI's F70s (3) will go to KLM Cityhopper. What will happen with the F100s (6) is unknown. KLM is looking for more Fokkers, so maybe they can go there???


Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

I think you have to consider what BMI was thinking of when it talked about replacing Fokkers with 717s or A318s, and whether the situation has perhaps changed somewhat now.

The Fokker 70s may be going to KLMC (is this confirmed yet?), but there's three more A320s coming which may go straight into store, and between four and six A321s parked at the moment, so extra capacity obviously isn't an issue. Furthermore, the East Mids operation which isn't hugely profitable and is where the Fokkers predominate may well come under pressure if Go launch competitive routes next spring.

I think the likelihood is downsizing to Embraers, and in any case, IF new equipment is needed for regional operations its more likely to come from that source now, rather than from Boeing or Airbus.

Andy


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1081 times:

The F70's have been confirmed to go. No news yet about the F100s.


Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1027 times:
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They have been persistent rumours of bmi operating MAN-DUB and MAN-CDG routes; I don't think ERJ145s will do for those routes  Wink/being sarcastic

David/MAN


User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

Could be Alpi Eagles a customer for the bmi Fokk100? I've heard they're trying to increase their fleet with 3/5 more aircraft (today they own 8 Fokk100).

Rgds

DaV



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User currently offlineBy738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

Any ideas what aircraft BMI will use on the GLA- Copenhagen route if the Fokkers go ?

User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1000 times:


I'm not privvy to the figures at the moment, but MAN-CDG might sustain a 735, MAN-DUB maybe the same (are they really going to go up against EI and Ryanair on that route?). If all else fails, there's always that spare A330 sat at MAN! Big grin

EDI-CPH? Well... Who knows, but its hardly a "core" route for BMI, is it? And who's talking about the F100s going soon anyway - first I've heard about it.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 956 times:
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The MAN-DUB rumour is doing the rounds in case EI go belly-up!

David/MAN


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 926 times:

I guess bmi will downgrade most Fokker 70 routes to ERJ145s. They have done so on the DUS-MAN route and might do it on the remaining Fokker 70 routes, concentrating on high yield passengers with a 50 seater.

Which leaves the question - where do the Fokker 70 operate at the moment ? DUS-MAN has changed to a ERJ145, CDG-STN to a LH Cityline CR7 (op to LHR now).


User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 910 times:

BD were so close to launching MAN DUB three years ago when ryanair cut back services to daily. They have also looked at BHX DUB in the past. They have experience at beating competition.

BD are performing very poorly on international routes at present, with the lowest load factors in the AEA statistics (excluding Adria), and from personal experience very low business class carryings.








The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 872 times:

Was the Star livery A332 used on the Heathrow-Belfast services over the Christmas period as rumoured?

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