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User currently offlineFlying lsd From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Now that we have the delivery date of the 3 airbus 332 of VG airline ( 3 ex - SN) with the strat of a daily BRU JFK 1st of march and to Boston 15th of march the third airbus go maybe to LAX ??

THe logic in this story with the merger between DAT and VEX is:

a brand new airline in Belgium with maybe a brand new name with
2 part :

a medium short haul operation for the ex - VEX DAT
a long haul operation under the management of VG (they have 3 ex SN airbus )

BUT go to LAX is not maybe a good idea is the partnership with AA continue we have :
a daily BRU ORD by AA
a daily BRU JFK by the new company
A daily BRU BOS by the new company
the third aircraft must go to a AA hub then DFW or MIA
the best solution is maybe that AA take DFW BRU and the new company MIA BRU or vice versa so we have a daily connection between BRU and all the AA hub ( I know BOS is not a AA hub )

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User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

I heard that "VG Airlines" was going to be named after the founder of it. How modest is that, naming an airline after yourself  Yeah sure.

The new airline should think of a name something like "Belgium International" or something like that.

If the AA partnership were to I guess, continue, than I think that DFW would keep the service. However, only if the partnership were on. The Sabena service worked because there was a ton of feed at DFW and BRU from connecting pax.

rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32609 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

MIA-BRU please. That would be great. A lot of traffic on the route, and while it offers less connections than Dallas (though it does offer the best connections to Latin America and the Caribbean, somewhere BRU lacks), it makes up for it with the higher O&D market. I think it is very possible if VG partners with AA.


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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3964 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

heard that "VG Airlines" was going to be named after the founder of it. How modest is that, naming an airline after yourself

VG (Airlines) = Van Gaever (Airlines)

... and why is VLM Airlines' (Belgian regional airline) designator "VG" - because Freddie van Gaever founded it in 1993.

...and why were the first aircraft of Delta Air Transport back in the mid 1960s registered OO-VG... ? - because van Gaever founded Delta Air Transport.

As we all know, it's hard to be humble  Wink/being sarcastic




User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

Flying lsd what about the third A330 going to Africa. Amadeus already lists SN flights to FIH (operated by DAT).

Regards
Laurens


User currently offlineAirDD From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

VG is not flying to LAX anymore ?

It was the first destination Freddy announced

 Smile



User currently offlineSterne82 From Belgium, joined May 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

VLM= Vlaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I can't wait to see their A330 in such a striking and nice colourscheme!

Good Luck to him

Regards,

Benjamin


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

Like LJ said the third A332 could be flying to Africa. It looks like everybody seems to forget Africa the last few days / weeks.

Regards, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineA330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

They are not forgeting Africa. Today Hewa Bora Airlines (Demavia HBA) started weekly operations with an L-1011 from Liege to Kinshasa.

User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

VG Airlines signed a contract for the lease of 3 ex-Sabena Airbusses from ILFC. The aircraft are stored at Bordeaux for the moment and will be painted into VG Airlines colours very soon by a French paintshop nearby Toulouse. Some VG Airlines images can already be seen here:

http://www.webstudio.nl/liladesign/designillustrationsamples/view_alone.nhtml?profile=designillustrationsamples&UID=10039

http://www.webstudio.nl/liladesign/designillustrationsamples/view_alone.nhtml?profile=designillustrationsamples&UID=10036

http://www.webstudio.nl/liladesign/designillustrationsamples/view_alone.nhtml?profile=designillustrationsamples&UID=10040


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Hmmm, so the corporate structure is precisely what I forcast some time ago: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/689533/6/

How will the ownership be split?


User currently offlineA330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Very nice Air Orange. You should start a seperate topic to display your designs. By the way, what kind of letter type are you using for the VG Airlines logo? Looks really cool Big grin

User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

LATEST NEWS

The fact that the third A330-200 almost for sure will be named "Rudy Guiliani. Time Magazine "Person of the Year 2001". Major of New York 1994-2001." could indeed say that the first official flight will be BRU-JFK. Can't wait to join Van Gaever on this trip.

The first two A330-200's (ex-Sabena aircraft leased from ILFC) will be named after Van Gaever's grand children Emilie de Graaf en Michael Toman.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1599 times:

VG Airlines is planning to start out with service to New York (JFK) starting on March 1, followed by Boston (BOS) on March 15th.

Then a 3rd destination will follow, most likely Los Angeles (LAX). No date announced yet though.

They are also looking into serving Denver (DEN). A BRU-DEN flight could do great if they do some sort of code-share agreement with United on that route. If not, then I'm not sure how well it will do. It might have a chance.

That is all that they have announced so far. I'm sure they will look at other destinations such as SFO, MIA, ATL, etc.

I'll miss Sabena.  Sad

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

While the name is a little cheap, that stunning color scheme is far more striking than Sabena's ever was. Wonder if VG will fly into JFK's Terminal Four where SN used to be.

TNNH


User currently offlineTca256 From Belgium, joined Dec 1999, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Air Orange,

Is it a joke about "Rudolf Guiliani" ? Uhmmm, it sounds
like a few people in Belgium doesn't know how to nickname an aircraft...With full respect to Van Gaever, it would have been more clever to use "City of New
York" for instance! Well, that's not less funny than
"Princess Elisabeth" (sorry for the Monarchists) or
"Spirit of the WTC"  Big grin !!!

cheers,


User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

As I said before; it is not yet 100% confirmed that it will be "Rudy". I think they might go for the full name "Rudolph Giuliani". Perhaps the A330-200 with this name will be used for the inaugural flight BRU-JFK at March 1, 2002.

Be continued...


User currently offlineLXLGU From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

Effective 1 Apr-DAT will fly under SN flight number
5 times weekly BRUSSELS/KINSHASA/BRUSSELS
4 of these will be via DOUALA and one direct

Cheers

Tony


User currently offlineDragonRapide From Belgium, joined Sep 2001, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

LXLGU - How can dat start flying on April 1 to Kinshasha when
a/ it is still very uncertain that dat will survive
b/ if it survives under what form (meaning how much money will there be available - this will determine if it will be a European only carrier or not)
c/ when dat doesn't have the aircraft to fly to Kinshasha???


User currently offlineLXLGU From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Hi Dragon Rapide

The flight is already in the CRS and can be booked
and advance seating can also be done
The USA flights are also loaded in the system
It comes back confirmed with a record locator from
DAT

Cheers!
Tony


User currently offlineDragonRapide From Belgium, joined Sep 2001, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Interesting LXLGU! Thanks.

User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

VG Airlines' official opening flight will be to John F. Kennedy Airport in New York, planned March 1, 2002. The nickname of the plane will be "New York City. The Big Apple (incl. logo)." A welcome ceremony at JFK is in preparation.

User currently offlineTca256 From Belgium, joined Dec 1999, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Okay, I got the point this time...I was sure "New York
city" would be the most pleasant nickname for such
inaugural flight....I'll be at Zaventem on March 1 but on
my way to Asia, I hope to spot the aircraft on the
tarmac!


User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

You were right, indeed! Coincidence? I shall wave to you at Zaventem as my wife and I are one of the invited people who are joining this VG Airlines BRU-JFK flight...anyway have a nice flight too.

User currently offlineTca256 From Belgium, joined Dec 1999, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Ooooh great, listen, my fiancée and I would be delighted to meet you in person between the check-in rows and the duty-free, for a drink! Enjoy NYC as I did a few years ago now....


25 Air Orange : I'm afraid we are going through the VIP-entrance, will you mis us than? Send me a picture so that we can recognize you or shall I hang a signboard aro
26 Ceilidh : If the Walloon government pulls out its finance then unless it can be replaced quickly the whole DAT/VEX/VG Airlines project will collapse. DAT will g
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