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Ever Seen Contrails Of The Aircraft You're In?  
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Hi,

take a look at this picture:


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Photo © Cpt. Eberhard Dalichow



As you can see, the contrails are visible to the passengers in the back rows of the 747.

I wonder, has any of you ever had the same opportunity, i.e. to see the contrails of the aircraft you're in? It must be an awesome sight, being able to see the contrails, right?

Ivan


Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
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User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Yeah they should be able to see faint contrails because afterit passes the a/c it developes more of a white form, but yeah they do see the contrails. Unless they're in a 727 or MD80/MD90/DC9.


I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Yes I saw contrails on SQ12 from SIN-NRT in 1998. I was in 54A and if I looked all the way back, I could see the contrails. Looks pretty nice!
9V-SPJ


User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

Interesting topic! In September 2000, I flew SFO-LHR on UA954, a 744. I walked to rear lav and looked out the 5R window. Sure enough, there were the FAT contrails. It was certainly an amazing sight!

User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

Numerous times. I have noticed them for the first time in an A340 and I've spotted them on all of my last four 747 flights. You can see them best the further you sit in the back of the plane. Unfortunately, they are not usually very clear. In sunset / dawn they can illuminate a bit better than the ground, making them easier to spot. However, even then they cannot really be photographed. I like seeing them (unless they obstruct my view of another plane or something interesting on the ground), and I have even seen them in a 738, once. All you need to do it look carefully. Too bad hardly anyone ever notices them...

Similarly: Who can claim to have looked out of the windows and seen the tailplane of their own planes? I can (because I always make an effort if I sit in the back of the plane), but who else ever tries?

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

I have once, it was this year. I was on a Lufthansa A340-300 going from FRA-ORD. We were over Greenland, and I looked out the window. I was in seat 38. I looked out and saw the contrail.

Continental


User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

From ATL-LAX in seat 46A of a DL 767-400 and from LAX-ATL in seat 54A of a DL MD-11, both the contrails and the horizontal tail were easily visible. The contrails were especially visible in the MD-11 at dusk.

http://homepage.mac.com/opossum987_3/100-1206.jpg

This photo was rejected by Airliners.net due to low quality, but I decided to post a link to it here since it shows what the starter of this thread was asking about.

-Jeffrey S.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

On a PC3 Orion you have a spherical windows for observation. When to aircraft is in a steep turn you can see the smoke of all four engines behind the aircraft. Spectacular.

These boys should have a nice view too..

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User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

I can usually see the reflection of the tail on the engine of a Southwest Boeing 737-200.

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

I remember being able to see contrails forming directly outside my window on an Lufthansa 747-230B over northern Germany.

LH423



« On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux » Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

On an LH 744 from LAX-FRA, I saw the contrails from the reflection of the engine nacelle. Very nice sight.

rgds,
-FSPilot747


User currently offlineRapo From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

In 30 years of flying (as a passenger only unfortunately) I have never been able to see the contrails of a flight I was on. I thought it was impossible until I saw this thread & especially Strickerje's photo. I'm very pleased to have been proven wrong & will try to crane my neck a bit further on future flights.

rapo


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

I saw the contrails on a BA 747-400 flight LAX-London in 1999, looked awesome but it was easy for me to see as i had a wing seat.

User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

No, but I've seen wingtip and fairing vortices, both times off 737 port wings.

redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offlineAstrojet From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 565 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

I´ve only seen the shadow over a cloud layer. Never the contrail itself.

User currently offlinePilothica737 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Once on a flight from ATL to STL there was this not too bright girl sitting next to me, and she was looking at the shadow of our contrail..she asked me what it was, and I told her that it was the state line between GA, an MI.... Sho took me seriuosly and proceeded to use the airphone to call her mother and let her know what she had seen......
Pilotchica


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

everytime I fly a 747-400 I will walk back into coach, all the way to the back door and take a good look there... some flights I will miss it though because im to comfortable and tired to even move. its an amazing site!

User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Pilothica737:

That story is just way too funny man  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

To all the others: thanks for your replies...

Sometimes, I see pictures of aircraft whose contrails only seem to develop like 100 meters behind the engine. On other pictures, such as the one posted on top of this thread, the contrails already show up only a few meters behind the engine.

Strickerje:

Thanks for the picture. Very interesting. I'll put it once more underneath (resized):



To all of you that are going to fly within the next few days or so: if you have a digital camera, try to make a picture of the contrails from the inside of the aircraft, and send it to me or so...I'll put them on my webspace, so I can post them...

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineN509JB From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

And I got a photo of them from inside a BA 744. Ill have the photos up soon...Well, soon as in prolly 3 months at the rate things have been going around here.  Big grin

B


User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

I'm glad you enjoyed my photo despite its somewhat poor quality. Btw, thanks for posting it in here; I never could figure out how to get a pic to show up in the forum window.

In May of 2002 I'll be going to Europe on an AF 777-200, seated near the back row-- I'll try to get a better picture then.


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Strickerje:

All you have to do is type, (img src="full URL to the image"), but instead of the two brackets you put a < and a >

Enjoy your flight. If you have the time, visit Belgium for a day or so  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Ok, thanks, I'll remember that for later!

Hmm... Belgium might be a bit out of our way, but hey, it doesn't matter to me where I go as long as I fly there.  Smile

-Jeffrey S.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

Jeffrey,
where in the US are you flying from to CDG?
Thanks,Alex


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

I saw some form of contrail in an NZ 744, upon takeoff from SYD sitting in seat 34A, as we climbed out initially for the first 10 seconds or so they were clearly visible until we climbed into a low cloud layer...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Yes, on my flight today! I will try to upload ASAP.
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
25 Continental : I have also seen wingtip vortices, and condensation forming over the wings. That was in a Continental 737 on August 12, 2001 going EWR-MSP. Right when
26 Strickerje : Alex- AF 777-200 from IAD-CDG (I live near Jackson, MS, and am going to ATL first, but ATL-CDG was full. But hey, no problem- one more leg for our tri
27 Post contains images Apuneger : Hi everybody: Here's another picture of an aircraft with contrails. This pictures was taken from another aircraft (according to the photographer a Sab
28 Lehpron : That first picture looks like the 747 had a Concorde blast right over it, from a different altitude ofcourse.
29 Ganymed : I´ve seen contrails caused by the aircraft I was flyin´on only once - and rather briefly - FRA-JFK on a DL-Tristar 500 in Oct. 1995.
30 DaV : I've seen both the contrails and wingtip vortices of Volare Airlines A320-200 after a turn over southern Italy during my flight from Crete to Milan MX
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