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User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

can anyone tell me a route where 2 diffrent carriers fly diffrent aircraft on the same route and leave one after the other or near anough the same time i think it happes whith bmi330 and aa767 on the manchester chicago route so dose the second aircraft to leave on any route ever the first to arive.

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User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

American Airlines flight 907 leaves Miami for Sao Paulo at 0745 while TAM flight 8091 leaves Miami, also for Sao Paulo, 15 minutes later. The TAM flight arrives in GRU 18 minutes earlier (AA is 763, TAM is 332).

Also, Delta Express 2574 leaves FLL for JFK 25 minutes before jetBlue 12 does, but jetBlue 12 get's there only 5 minutes later.



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User currently offlineJohn Walton From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Its not so much the planes which are flying the route, but the route itself, for example, because the BMI route is newer than the AA one, it may be that BMI has had to settle for a route which takes 10 minutes longer - because that was the route is was alloted when it applied to operate the route.

User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2597 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

When I saw the question I was gonna say the BMI A330 & AA 763 on the MAN-ORD route............but thats what you were thinking of !

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8031 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

Actually, one of the most obvious places where one plane is faster than another is two SFO-HKG non-stop flights, SQ 1 and CX 873.

CX 873 (flying an A340-300) leaves at 2315 hours local time and arrives 0640 hours local time the second day, while SQ 1 (flying a 747-400) leaves at 2355 hours local time and arrives at 0640 hours local time the second day. This means that the A343 has a slower economic cruise speed than the 744, unless the planes are flying different transpacific tracks.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1615 times:

Once, from ORD to SNA, me and my aunt were flying the same exact route. She was flying AA, and I was flying UAL. We landed within around 5 minutes of each other. Her plane was behind mine on takeoff, and landed right after mine in SNA. Pretty cool.

-FSPilot747


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1611 times:

Also..although not a major point...arrival slots in some airports are closely controlled. It may not be necessary or beneficial to fly as fast as economically possible. You'd still have to wait for your alloted slot.

User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1596 times:

Looking at airline timetables is probably not the best way to judge which plane is faster. There are too many factors involved to give an accurate answer based on 2 planes flying between the same 2 cities. But I know for a fact that the 747-400 is the fastest airliner out there. Besides Concorde, of course!

User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

"But I know for a fact that the 747-400 is the fastest airliner out there."


The citation X is the fastest subsonic passenger jet out there. It may not be an airliner, but it is a passenger jet.


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

I once had the opportunity to fly AKL-CHC in an Air New Zealand 732. It was a one hour flight for us, and in Ansett's BAe 146, it was a one hour 10 minute flight. The Ansett flight left before us, and once we were cruising, the captain commented how annoying they were, as the 737 usually caught up, but then had to wait for the 146 to descend (at a slower rate than the 737), and land, which basically lost the speed advantage. Needless to say, these pilots weren't particularly impressed with either Ansett or the BAe 146!

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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1432 times:

I didn't miss the point of the thread, cuz i'm straying here - but i'm reminded of the times I'd see a Korean 744 depart YYZ moments before a Korean 74(2-3?) bound for what I assume was the same destination. Can anyone elaborate of their itenerary?

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1425 times:

I have heard of a story from a person who works at United operations in ORD, He says that at United they call the AIr Canada A340 the cholesterol jet because it clogs up the airway, it seems that the Vancouver to Toky flight leaves just a few mins before the Seattle Tokyo United 777 and usually both flights are planed for the same trans-pacific airway at the same alts. But teh 340 usually gets there faster, and when they both enter the airway one after the other, united is always having to request higher or lower to over pass the airbus, which is not an easy thing to request when you are on a pacific oceanic track, so usually the 777 has to slow down and ride behind the clog in the airway.  Smile


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User currently offlineCovert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

one time i was in a ba 767 from lgw to pit when an air france 747 passed us.


thank goodness for TCAS !
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

LHR-JFK probabarly has a few examples.

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